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re: Mid Barataria Diversion

Posted on 11/29/24 at 12:09 pm to
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
10770 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 12:09 pm to
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The more I think about it, the better "blow the levees south of Belle Chase" sounds as the most reasonable solution.

Because it's truly the most cost-effective solution over a 100-year period by miles.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33568 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 12:10 pm to
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There basically is no more East Plaquemines
land is growing like crazy from Mardi Gras and Neptune passes.
Posted by Novastar
Member since Jan 2023
643 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 12:12 pm to
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Mr. Breeze= 100% correct


Yikes… More like 50%
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
24936 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 12:12 pm to
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It just makes more sense to move in a direction that's more natural,
Which is what the diversion aims to do. Reconnect the Barataria Bay estuary with land building sediment from the river and freshwater influence to restore more natural salinity level that’ll improve vegetation that holds the land together
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175379 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 12:14 pm to
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Map below, the upper panel is around year 2,000 while the lower panel is an estimate of the State's coastline by the end of this century, absent mitigation.

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Mitigation needs to occur but this depiction is hilarious fear mongering.
Posted by catchyalater
Louisiana
Member since May 2023
164 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 12:31 pm to
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But at least the fishing will be good….


Way too late reply but the fishing would be better with the diversion. That ecosystem, and all the fish that come with it, was built by the river. It builds the habitat for all of the bait that the fish we like to catch feeds on.

Even accounting for corruption, I cannot see any reason why this diversion shouldn't happen. Is it just that Landry and Nungesser are worried their camps won't have direct access to the water?

There's no way a handful of oystermen have this much influence over the entirety of Southeast Louisiana.
Posted by RanchoLaPuerto
Jena
Member since Aug 2023
1734 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 12:39 pm to
I don’t know the science.

I DO know some of the people involved in the project.

Knowing those people makes me highly skeptical of the project.
Posted by lakeviewtiger
BC
Member since Jul 2005
2437 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 1:28 pm to
This.

IMO, the corps and other agencies are just going to figure out navigable, deep water pass to maintain for commerce and then let the nature handle itself.
The associated costs would probably be a fraction of maintaining as is.
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
6653 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 4:19 pm to
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Dredging was not studied in the EIS

EIS excerpts from Section 2, Alternatives.

Dredging : Alternatives Table 2.3.1 see page 2-15.

" Moreover, this method would not mimic the natural deltaic processes through repeated inputs of sediment, fresh water, and nutrients during times of high river flow, but instead would involve the removal of riverbed or nearshore sediment material by a dredge for transport, as a slurry via pipeline, and disposal into a mechanically created cell to a target elevation. These activities could occur at times outside of high historical inputs (such as Spring Floods".

Section 2.3.5 Large Scale Marsh Creation - page 2-18

" Large-scale marsh creation projects in the Barataria Basin would involve dredging and movement of sediment from offshore or nearshore bodies of water, such as bayous, lakes, or canals, or from point bars in the Mississippi River, typically via hydraulic dredging and transporting dredged sediment via pipeline to specified locations within the basin for the purpose of replacing, creating, or maintaining eroded or subsided wetlands."

Dredging discussion as an Alternative ends on page 2-22.

USCOE EIS

You obviously disagree but it was considered and discarded in the EIS as not a viable, long term solution. I look forward to your revised definition of the word "studied."
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
6653 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 4:50 pm to

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Mitigation needs to occur but this depiction is hilarious fear mongering.





Oops, that GIF is fast so here's the first and last images it's based upon.




Below is colorized land loss equivalent.


Our governor and his minions are going to kill the Barataria Bay Diversion. Trust them and not your lying eyes.

How anyone can be certain our coastal loss doesn't accelerate and propogate more rapidly in the next 75 years compared to the last 75 is, to me, highly suspect.

Enjoy your oysters.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37167 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 6:08 pm to
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fiversion

What’s a fiversion?
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
14908 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 6:28 pm to
Yep you can’t fix stupidity. Let it burn
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