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Message from Apple regarding San Bernardino

Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:01 am
Posted by RedRifle
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:01 am
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TL/DR. Basically they won't unlock the iPhone because it sets a dangerous precedent.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted by tigahfromtheham
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:03 am to
yeah about that......
Posted by djangochained
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:03 am to
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Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:03 am to
Change your password and forget it.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:04 am to
Kudos to them for taking a stand. Privacy of data is important.
Posted by The Cool No 9
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:05 am to
Sets a dangerous precedent?? When jihadists kill Americans they don't have privacy and constitutional provisions they abused that right, they are enemies of the state you wack arse liberal looney tunes
Posted by TigerRob20
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:05 am to
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CAD


Fancy seeing you here

Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:06 am to
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The Cool No 9

There was a long thread about it this morning if you want to educate yourself.
Posted by Wtodd
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:07 am to
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Kudos to them for taking a stand. Privacy of data is important.

This
Posted by Count Chocula
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:12 am to
The FBI was able to recreate Hillary's deleted e-mails (you know, the ones not work related )...

Seems like they could figure out a way to hack into a low life scum bag terrorists phone?
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
8349 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:13 am to
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are enemies of the state you wack arse liberal looney tunes ?





Scalia would be against this power, it's actually a conservative response by Apple
...control your emotions baw
Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:13 am to
Couldn't the gov't hire a hacker to open it up? If someone had drugs in their purse with a lock on it and the cops had a warrant to search the purse, they'd break the lock.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:13 am to
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Sets a dangerous precedent?? When jihadists kill Americans they don't have privacy and constitutional provisions they abused that right, they are enemies of the state you wack arse liberal looney tunes

I'm as far from a liberal as they come and you are wrong here. If they were/are American citizens, it doesn't matter what they did. The fed/po-po/whoever needs a warrant to have the phone unlocked. That's the way it is and the way it should be.
Posted by musick
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Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:19 am to
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Couldn't the gov't hire a hacker to open it up? If someone had drugs in their purse with a lock on it and the cops had a warrant to search the purse, they'd break the lock.


I dont want to rehash this too much bc there is a huge thread on the tech board but we are talking about encryption here, this isn't an easy hack. It's not "hacking a password" It took an inside source at Sony to leak out the ps3 firmware or the ps3 would have remained unhacked because of their strength of encryption. This is akin to apple, no, they cant just hack the single phone because the encryption is used across all iOS devices and is proprietary to apple. To give them what they want, the FBI is asking apple to create a custom iOS version that circumvents the encryption totally, and install it on this phone.

IF they did that, they would say goodbye to any future privacy on any of their devices.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52637 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:20 am to
A Federal Judge has ordered Apple to unlock the phone.


Although I'm very anti-snooping, etc; there's obviously justifiable reason to unlock this particular phone. The phone isn't "suspected" of being used for terrorist activity, it's KNOWN to have been used to terrorist activity.


That's a huge damn difference.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:22 am to
So did the judge just write Apple a letter or dial 'em up on the phone telling them to unlock it or did he send an official warrant or subpoena?
That's a huge damn difference.

ETA: Stopped reading that BS right about here --> Smartphones, led by iPhone,
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 11:24 am
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:22 am to
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That's a huge damn difference.

If all they were being asked to do is unlock THIS iPhone, I don't see them raising much of a stink. But that's not what they're being asked to do. They are being asked to provide software capable of unlocking EVERY iPhone. Hence the resistance.

Again, there was a long thread this morning on the topic, where people much more technologically inclined discuss the problems.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 11:24 am
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
98741 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:22 am to
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I dont want to rehash this too much bc there is a huge thread on the tech board but we are talking about encryption here, this isn't an easy hack


Dude, it's a 5C. No Security Enclave. Apparently (according to this site anyway), the FBI is requesting technical assistance to have unlimited tries to unlock it. Not to actually get Apple to unlock it for them

quote:

The FBI is asking (pdf) for technical assistance to essentially give them an unlimited number of guesses to crack the PIN, using a “special version of iOS that only works on the one iPhone they have recovered,” according to the Trail of Bits blog. Tim Cook, Apple’s CEO, has championed the need for encryption—and he means it. The iPhone that the FBI is trying to get into is the 5C model, which, luckily, does not have Apple’s most important security feature, the Secure Enclave. The Secure Enclave is a separate computer within the computer that holds access to the encryption keys controlling Apple Pay, the iCloud keychain, and other bits and pieces linked to Touch ID, which uses your fingerprint to access the device on top of the of PIN. (The 5C is an older model that is no longer on sale; the iPhone 5S and all newer models have Touch ID.)


Linkage
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
8349 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:28 am to
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Federal Judge has ordered Apple to unlock the phone. 


It isn't just the phone...they want the software to be able to unlock it

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