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Message from Apple regarding San Bernardino
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:01 am
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:01 am
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:03 am to RedRifle
Change your password and forget it.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:04 am to CAD703X
Kudos to them for taking a stand. Privacy of data is important.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:05 am to CAD703X
Sets a dangerous precedent?? When jihadists kill Americans they don't have privacy and constitutional provisions they abused that right, they are enemies of the state you wack arse liberal looney tunes 
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:05 am to RedRifle
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CAD
Fancy seeing you here
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:06 am to The Cool No 9
quote:There was a long thread about it this morning if you want to educate yourself.
The Cool No 9
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:07 am to SUB
quote:
Kudos to them for taking a stand. Privacy of data is important.
This
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:12 am to RedRifle
The FBI was able to recreate Hillary's deleted e-mails (you know, the ones not work related
)...
Seems like they could figure out a way to hack into a low life scum bag terrorists phone?
Seems like they could figure out a way to hack into a low life scum bag terrorists phone?
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:13 am to The Cool No 9
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are enemies of the state you wack arse liberal looney tunes ?
Scalia would be against this power, it's actually a conservative response by Apple
...control your emotions baw
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:13 am to RedRifle
Couldn't the gov't hire a hacker to open it up? If someone had drugs in their purse with a lock on it and the cops had a warrant to search the purse, they'd break the lock.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:13 am to The Cool No 9
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Sets a dangerous precedent?? When jihadists kill Americans they don't have privacy and constitutional provisions they abused that right, they are enemies of the state you wack arse liberal looney tunes
I'm as far from a liberal as they come and you are wrong here. If they were/are American citizens, it doesn't matter what they did. The fed/po-po/whoever needs a warrant to have the phone unlocked. That's the way it is and the way it should be.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:19 am to idlewatcher
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Couldn't the gov't hire a hacker to open it up? If someone had drugs in their purse with a lock on it and the cops had a warrant to search the purse, they'd break the lock.
I dont want to rehash this too much bc there is a huge thread on the tech board but we are talking about encryption here, this isn't an easy hack. It's not "hacking a password" It took an inside source at Sony to leak out the ps3 firmware or the ps3 would have remained unhacked because of their strength of encryption. This is akin to apple, no, they cant just hack the single phone because the encryption is used across all iOS devices and is proprietary to apple. To give them what they want, the FBI is asking apple to create a custom iOS version that circumvents the encryption totally, and install it on this phone.
IF they did that, they would say goodbye to any future privacy on any of their devices.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:20 am to shawnlsu
A Federal Judge has ordered Apple to unlock the phone.
Although I'm very anti-snooping, etc; there's obviously justifiable reason to unlock this particular phone. The phone isn't "suspected" of being used for terrorist activity, it's KNOWN to have been used to terrorist activity.
That's a huge damn difference.
Although I'm very anti-snooping, etc; there's obviously justifiable reason to unlock this particular phone. The phone isn't "suspected" of being used for terrorist activity, it's KNOWN to have been used to terrorist activity.
That's a huge damn difference.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:22 am to bamarep
So did the judge just write Apple a letter or dial 'em up on the phone telling them to unlock it or did he send an official warrant or subpoena?
That's a huge damn difference.
ETA: Stopped reading that BS right about here --> Smartphones, led by iPhone,
That's a huge damn difference.
ETA: Stopped reading that BS right about here --> Smartphones, led by iPhone,
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 11:24 am
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:22 am to bamarep
quote:If all they were being asked to do is unlock THIS iPhone, I don't see them raising much of a stink. But that's not what they're being asked to do. They are being asked to provide software capable of unlocking EVERY iPhone. Hence the resistance.
That's a huge damn difference.
Again, there was a long thread this morning on the topic, where people much more technologically inclined discuss the problems.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 11:24 am
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:22 am to musick
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I dont want to rehash this too much bc there is a huge thread on the tech board but we are talking about encryption here, this isn't an easy hack
Dude, it's a 5C. No Security Enclave. Apparently (according to this site anyway), the FBI is requesting technical assistance to have unlimited tries to unlock it. Not to actually get Apple to unlock it for them
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The FBI is asking (pdf) for technical assistance to essentially give them an unlimited number of guesses to crack the PIN, using a “special version of iOS that only works on the one iPhone they have recovered,” according to the Trail of Bits blog. Tim Cook, Apple’s CEO, has championed the need for encryption—and he means it. The iPhone that the FBI is trying to get into is the 5C model, which, luckily, does not have Apple’s most important security feature, the Secure Enclave. The Secure Enclave is a separate computer within the computer that holds access to the encryption keys controlling Apple Pay, the iCloud keychain, and other bits and pieces linked to Touch ID, which uses your fingerprint to access the device on top of the of PIN. (The 5C is an older model that is no longer on sale; the iPhone 5S and all newer models have Touch ID.)
Linkage
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:28 am to bamarep
quote:
Federal Judge has ordered Apple to unlock the phone.
It isn't just the phone...they want the software to be able to unlock it
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