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re: Men With Paid Paternity Leave
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:29 am to shawnlsu
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:29 am to shawnlsu
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I said my CREWS and I also said large for the field. You are now changing my words to fit your argument.
I'm interpretting your words for the context provided. The larger companies I worked with generally had this field hierarchy: 1) construction manager/site manager, 2) multiple superintendents, 3) multiple foremen. The hierarchy wasn't solely based on one person being present and an absence could be picked up by others. If you truly are the only person at the company that knows how the field operates, which I don't see as being possible, you probably should learn to delegate a bit better.
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:29 am to cas4t
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I didn't realize we were discussing how it easy it is
The original point I replied to was that if things run smoothly, the company wouldn't see the person as necessary for the company so they might get rid of them.
I think that's absurd because while things might run smoothly, the company will be happier when he returns because of the added work on other people's plates.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:31 am to TH03
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The original point I replied to was that if things run smoothly, the company wouldn't see the person as necessary for the company so they might get rid of them.
I thought you were responding to shel, not the 50. My bad.
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I think that's absurd because while things might run smoothly, the company will be happier when he returns because of the added work on other people's plates.
same page.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:31 am to TH03
quote:Correct. We have 15 certified CPAs/CIAs in my department for the largest healthcare provider here in LA.
I think that's absurd because while things might run smoothly, the company will be happier when he returns because of the added work on other people's plates.
If one of us left for 8 weeks, shite would run smooth as butter. Even if it was our CAE that left. However, we dont want that to happen, and they arent just worth cutting, because we would all have to chip in more work here and there.
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 9:32 am
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:32 am to lsupride87
Running smoothly =/= easy to replace with another employee.
Just because the company doesn't fall to pieces in your absence doesn't mean the company should just cut you like dead weight like Jake said.
Just because the company doesn't fall to pieces in your absence doesn't mean the company should just cut you like dead weight like Jake said.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:32 am to TigerNlc
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Just like sick days. I have a lot of them but they really don't want you to use all of them.
Did they tell you that or are you assuming??
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:33 am to shel311
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There may be reasons for this but it's certainly not ideal or a good setup to be in this position.
I will admit its not ideal. I would love to have a couple of assistants under me, but that's not they way we work here. We keep overhead as low as possible, with as few employees as possible to get the work done. This way when it gets slow at the end of the year (it does every year) I don't have to lay anyone off. I have a great group of field employees that I want to retain. With that myself and the owner wear many hats. It keeps us on our toes and I enjoy it.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:33 am to TH03
quote:Im agreeing with you
Running smoothly =/= easy to replace with another employee.
Just because the company doesn't fall to pieces in your absence doesn't mean the company should just cut you like dead weight like Jake said.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:33 am to Clark W Griswold
I get 10. We're having twins so I tentatively took off 6. I'm going to be working from home though no doubt.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:34 am to lsupride87
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they arent just worth cutting, because we would all have to chip in more work here and there.
My point entirely. The position exists for a reason. If 2 jobs could be done by 1 person for cheaper, they'd have 1 position.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:34 am to lsupride87
Your second post did
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:35 am to TH03
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like Jake said.
That's what he said
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:36 am to TH03
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Just because the company doesn't fall to pieces in your absence doesn't mean the company should just cut you like dead weight like Jake said.
Just let these baws keep their little fantasy going.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:37 am to Pettifogger
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I have a buddy who got 10 weeks paid and he can split it up in any amount and use it anytime within a year
That's my company
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:37 am to cas4t
I was talking about this
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I understand it's a benefit. I'm telling you the message it sends if things go smoothly in your absence. You're looking at what's on paper and I'm looking at how that translates in reality
If they want to get rid of someone after that, they didn't have a necessary position in the first place
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:38 am to shawnlsu
yall should consider a construction temp agency, depending on your work. I have a former client who does this a lot for drilling and boring work.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:38 am to TigerNlc
I mean, most jobs don’t want you to take all of your sick days because you have a hangover or some shite.
If I got in a bad car accident and needed time to heal then that’s exactly what those are for.
If I got in a bad car accident and needed time to heal then that’s exactly what those are for.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:39 am to Clark W Griswold
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who here has done it and how did you handle your work taking all that time off?
If they give you 8 weeks, take the 8 weeks.
First off, (and most importantly) you’ll never get that time with your significant other and baby again. Those moments are precious. Take the time off and soak it up. Also, your significant other will always remember you being by their side in those joyous moments.
Secondly, plan way in advance at work and make your transition in and out and absence seamless. If your superior is worth a damn, they’ll recognize your ability to plan and train those around you to pick up extra slack and that can make your management stock go way up.
Everyone is replaceable, those that make a managers life easier aren’t easily replaced.
Don’t be afraid of being left behind at work. Your coworkers will have more respect for you for being a responsible family man for taking that time off to be with your new family.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:39 am to TH03
yea, that line of thinking is completely arse backwards.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:40 am to Areddishfish
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1) construction manager/site manager, 2) multiple superintendents, 3) multiple foremen.
I am 1 and 2. I have multiple foremen that run the individual projects.
I have worked at companies that are set up exactly as your example. I have learned, in the industry that I'm in, that the middle layers are just a way to piss away profits and deal with layoffs and hiring all year. That in itself is a huge expense that we don't have. Does it create more work for me? Yes and no. I know all of my guys very well, so I don't have to constantly learn the new guy's abilities. I also have to know the details of every project we work the same as the foreman/lead tech on the site. I also have to wear several hats throughout the day as does the owner.
It may not be what you are used to or learned but it works for us.
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