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re: Medical Insurance Doubled
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:42 pm to HogBalls
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:42 pm to HogBalls
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maybe next time I’m doubled over from pain in the ER I won’t have to sit there waiting for 3 hours watching Mexicans go back for treatment on what looks to be coughs and fever
The ER does triage based on country of origin?
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:47 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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That is what he should have been paying. He wasn't because of subsides put on during the Covid scam. That government program has expired per the schedule from the Biden administration so the normal cost are back on.
Ok? Why weren’t they extended? In 2021, inflation hadn’t reared its head yet. It’s up to our representatives to listen to their constituents and vote on their behalf. The economy has changed dramatically and it’s beyond retarded to just point and say “oh, they expired” as if this Congress and Administration were/are powerless to do anything about that expiration.
People are getting hurt by this dumbass shite.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:48 pm to c on z
And the Republicans killed the universal insurance mandate. The mandate required everyone to purchase insurance, thereby spreading the risk across the entire population. The Republicans knew that if they could kill the universal mandate, people would revert to uninsured and the risk would eventually get more concentrated, driving up the cost to those who purchased insurance.
Then Republicans also opposed a permanent increase in the subsidy, again making these increases in burden on the working poor a certainty.
And the Republicans also refused to agree to extend the subsidies.
And Trump has been promising a better system of health insurance for TEN YEARS!!!
So now it is time for the Republicans to own it or unveil their superior plan.
Then Republicans also opposed a permanent increase in the subsidy, again making these increases in burden on the working poor a certainty.
And the Republicans also refused to agree to extend the subsidies.
And Trump has been promising a better system of health insurance for TEN YEARS!!!
So now it is time for the Republicans to own it or unveil their superior plan.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:49 pm to Randman
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I purchased this individual policy for him myself 9 years ago.
Sounds exactly like Obama Care.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:55 pm to moneyg
Don’t worry, you don’t qualify for even a 1/4 of a brain. You’re safe.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:55 pm to TBoy
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And the Republicans killed the universal insurance mandate. The mandate required everyone to purchase insurance, thereby spreading the risk across the entire population. The Republicans knew that if they could kill the universal mandate, people would revert to uninsured and the risk would eventually get more concentrated, driving up the cost to those who purchased insurance.
There is not an ounce of actual data showing the mandate repeal led to an increase in premiums. For one thing, the uninsured rate did not rise after the mandate ended. Secondly, the rate of premium increases was higher between 2013 and 2017 than between 2017 and 2025
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:58 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Secondly, the rate of premium increases was higher between 2013 and 2017 than between 2017 and 2025
So what are you complaining about?
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:58 pm to WheyCheddar
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Don’t worry, you don’t qualify for even a 1/4 of a brain. You’re safe.
Your feelings don't change the basic facts about where Obamacare came from, what Obamacare has done to the COST of healthcare and health insurance...and why there is such a need for subsidies in the first place.
The system isn't affordable. It's a disaster. Republicans warned of this then. We have lived it for a long time. It's only been hidden to the degree it has because the taxpayers were picking up more of the tab than it even should have.
Time to grow up and pay for your own healthcare little man.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:00 pm to moneyg
Another Trumptard thinks he knows what I think! Good luck with your clairvoyance. I’m sure you enthrall them at the dollar tree.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:03 pm to WheyCheddar
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Another Trumptard thinks he knows what I think! Good luck with your clairvoyance. I’m sure you enthrall them at the dollar tree.
Man you are emotional.
No matter how much you hate Trump, he just didn't create Obamacare.
Sorry, little guy.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:06 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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mmmmmbeeer
Extending the juiced subsidies as they currently existed is completely indefensible.
Tax payer dollars were going to wealthy early retirees, wealthy families, etc, because the juiced subsidies *HAD NO INCOME LEVEL RESTRICTIONS*
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Letting the subsidies go away merely restores the original ObamaCare premium-support structure. That preserves access to subsidies for low-income populations, who already comprise 93% of the 24 million who get health insurance through the ObamaCare exchanges. The expiration will affect roughly 1.6 million current enrollees. These are the people with incomes above 400% of the federal poverty level who have been receiving subsidies that cap their premium contributions at 8.5% of income. A family of four in Arizona making $600,000, a married couple in West Virginia making $580,000, and a single individual in Vermont making $180,000 all qualify for subsidies.
Simply put, since 2021, Congress has been bribing higher-income Americans to purchase expensive ObamaCare plans by hiding the plans’ true price tags using taxpayer dollars. Premiums have increased by nearly 80% since 2014 and more than doubled since 2011. They are projected to rise another 15% to 20% next year. Despite record taxpayer spending on premium subsidies—exceeding $130 billion annually—enrollees still pay average deductibles of $5,000 and out-of-pocket maximums of $21,000 while 1 in 5 of their medical claims are denied. Without Covid-era premium subsidies, these plans would hold little appeal to consumers.
Why are ObamaCare plans so unaffordable? The inflationary provisions of the Affordable Care Act—such as the medical loss ratio, mandated “essential” benefits, community rating and premium subsidies—have inhibited insurers from offering affordable and flexible options. The law’s regulatory burdens on providers have also fueled consolidation and driven up service prices. These structural flaws have long been recognized and are a major reason why the ACA, the American Rescue Plan and the Inflation Reduction Act have all failed to gain bipartisan support.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:07 pm to denhamtiger
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Both my kids ages 5-7 went from 325 to 550 mine went from 370 to 680 absolutely insane. Lets not even talk about the high decutibles
Huh? You pay individually for a family plan? Not mine. Doesn’t matter how many kids you have, it’s the same premium monthly but you just have to meet each individual deductible
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:16 pm to TBoy
Hold on ..
I was in the market at the time for my own insurance after Obamacare was passed. I could not afford a bronze plan on the market. As a result, I was going to be fined 600 dollars FOR NOT HAVING a product I COULDN'T AFFORD! It was ridiculous then, and it still is
Obamacare was going to fail. Congress was repeatedly told by apolitical organizations it would fail, but it was the closest to single payer or , "medicaid for all" that they could get at the time. Not a single Republican vote
Democrats are the ones who increased the subsidies in the first place!!
Then, they shut down the government because health care costs are exploding, trying to force the Republicans to extend what the Democrats had set to expire anyways! Total joke ..
Here's the kicker..
Even if the subsidies were to be extended, that money would go where? You guessed it! The insurance companies! Without any concrete proof that the insurance companies would lower costs anyways! It's a continued handout to the insurance companies!
Now, because trump is president, and orange man bad, the Dems are blaming Trump for Obama's signature law being a failure and the expiration of subsidies set by Democrats! Zero Republican votes!
But what's the plan from the Republican party that we haven't heard about? How about the federal government gets out of the insurance industry, which is rich, because all they do is pay the companies who are ripping people off left and right!
As for the Dems, they can't even agree on single payer because moderate Dems know it would be a catastrophic failure . Much worse than what is occuring now.
For those that would like to see the Dems healthcare plan operated at the state level, they've tried it.
There's fewer than a million people in vermont. It has some of the most stable demographics in the country. They tried to do it, but the cost was too much, for too many people.
vermont struggles with the cost
I was in the market at the time for my own insurance after Obamacare was passed. I could not afford a bronze plan on the market. As a result, I was going to be fined 600 dollars FOR NOT HAVING a product I COULDN'T AFFORD! It was ridiculous then, and it still is
Obamacare was going to fail. Congress was repeatedly told by apolitical organizations it would fail, but it was the closest to single payer or , "medicaid for all" that they could get at the time. Not a single Republican vote
Democrats are the ones who increased the subsidies in the first place!!
Then, they shut down the government because health care costs are exploding, trying to force the Republicans to extend what the Democrats had set to expire anyways! Total joke ..
Here's the kicker..
Even if the subsidies were to be extended, that money would go where? You guessed it! The insurance companies! Without any concrete proof that the insurance companies would lower costs anyways! It's a continued handout to the insurance companies!
Now, because trump is president, and orange man bad, the Dems are blaming Trump for Obama's signature law being a failure and the expiration of subsidies set by Democrats! Zero Republican votes!
But what's the plan from the Republican party that we haven't heard about? How about the federal government gets out of the insurance industry, which is rich, because all they do is pay the companies who are ripping people off left and right!
As for the Dems, they can't even agree on single payer because moderate Dems know it would be a catastrophic failure . Much worse than what is occuring now.
For those that would like to see the Dems healthcare plan operated at the state level, they've tried it.
There's fewer than a million people in vermont. It has some of the most stable demographics in the country. They tried to do it, but the cost was too much, for too many people.
vermont struggles with the cost
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:22 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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HAD NO INCOME LEVEL RESTRICTIONS
This Congress and admin have the opportunity to extend or rewrite or, really, do whatever they want to protect American families?
You keep pointing to an expired piece of legislation and pretending that’s why we can’t have it now. Writing legislation is LITERALLY their fricking jobs.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:32 pm to Randman
Mine stayed exactly the same. 2 dollar difference.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:32 pm to Bronco11
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Even if the subsidies were to be extended, that money would go where? You guessed it! The insurance companies! Without any concrete proof that the insurance companies would lower costs anyways! It's a continued handout to the insurance companies!
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I was in the market at the time for my own insurance after Obamacare was passed. I could not afford a bronze plan on the market. As a result, I was going to be fined 600 dollars FOR NOT HAVING a product I COULDN'T AFFORD! It was ridiculous then, and it still is
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the closest to single payer or , "medicaid for all" that they could get at the time. Not a single Republican vote
So you can’t afford healthcare (or couldn’t) and think insurance companies are crooks who are driving up our prices.
Then in the next breath brag about republicans not voting for single payer, which eliminates insurance companies (for all intents and purposes) and massively reduces medical costs by cutting out the middlemen and allowing government to negotiate directly with medical providers.
You’re like exactly the person Medicare for all is targeting to help, man! Your post is practically begging for MFA but with the caveat that you’re against it. Why would you vote against your own pocketbook?
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:37 pm to Randman
Because it’s a scam. Nothing about it is insurance. It’s to make profits for corporations. Even the medical and allied health fields suffer because of it. Managed care was the ruination of medicine.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:39 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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reduces medical costs by cutting out the middlemen and allowing government to negotiate directly with medical providers.
Very few if any non-partisan analyses find that single payer/m4a “massively reduce medical costs”.
LINK
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The democrats signed into law in 2021 a bill that provided temporary “juiced” subsidies that would expire after the pandemic ended. The democrats chose 2025 as the expiration year. How is this the fault of the republicans?
Sure, then vote the Democrat in the White House and the ones with a majority in Congress out of office….
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