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Medical billing.. is there a cure to this chaos?

Posted on 9/9/22 at 7:49 pm
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28898 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 7:49 pm
Random $16 bill.

Random $245 bill

Collections threat mail.

Do they even know what they’re doing?
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66435 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 7:50 pm to
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Medical billing.. is there a cure to this chaos?


Sure. Socialized medicine. Why don’t you move to Canada and let us know how that goes for you?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63997 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 7:54 pm to
It is by design, eventually you'll throw up your hands and say frick it, socialized medicine can't be worse than this bullshite.

You'd be wrong, but you'd feel that way.

Democrats and Republicans are both equally responsible for the limbo our healthcare system is in.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
6979 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 7:54 pm to
I feel like the average Walmart cashier is in charge of medical billing
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11501 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 7:55 pm to
I have gotten bills from doctors I have never seen from hospital stays. Tell them to pound sand. I asked for what services they provide, one company said "Chart review". Did I ask for a chart review? Should I pay you $250 to review my chart when I didn't request it? Wait, you don't even have any documentation stating what you recommendation was after reviewing my chart?

The solution, not allow them to pursue collections or credit reporting without an upfront signed contract agreeing to that specific service for that specific price.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37503 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 7:55 pm to
Yes.

Publish rates openly and transparently
Get government out of health care entirely
Posted by HoboDickCheese
The overpass
Member since Sep 2020
9368 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 7:56 pm to
Just don’t pay your medical bills. It has worked out for me
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
13528 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 7:57 pm to
Sounds like Tulane Med where each doctor sends their own bills instead of just one damn bill from the hospital.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38508 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 7:58 pm to
The best and brightest of society aren't typically working in medical billing departments.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63997 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 7:59 pm to
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Sounds like Tulane Med where each doctor sends their own bills instead of just one damn bill from the hospital.


That's all hospitals. The doctors, radiologists, anethesiologist, all contractors. They all send their own bills.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 8:05 pm to
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Just don’t pay your medical bills. It has worked out for me


Y’all know as of July 1st you have a whole lot more latitude to deal with medical bills without it being detrimental to your credit, right?

LINK
Posted by wheelr
Member since Jul 2012
5147 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 8:08 pm to
I'm with you 100%. I have a good rant about this but don't feel like typing it out.

The current system is a joke.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/policy-ten-administrators-for-every-one-us-doctor-092813

Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
2878 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 8:09 pm to
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Publish rates openly and transparently

Insurance doesn't want this. The more confusing they make it the more money they make from both doctors' offices and patients
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21412 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 8:12 pm to
Obama purposefully blew this up. That idiot knew full well people would get mad. What took 1 person to do before that idiot took office, now takes 5.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63997 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 8:12 pm to
That only applies if paid in full. Outstanding unpaid balances still on there, and even settlements still on there.
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8375 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 8:12 pm to
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I feel like the average Walmart cashier is in charge of medical billing


I work in the industry. You’re closer than you think. Look up medical billing training and the marketing material. It’s targeted at people who look like they work at Walmarks.
Posted by BoogalooCopperpot
In my own head
Member since Jan 2021
458 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 8:14 pm to
Rates are publicly published.

I will acknowledge that facility fees can be a fn hammer.

Anything a physician does though, is published in cms physician fee schedule. Or just ask your doctor how much shite will cost before you get procedure
This post was edited on 9/9/22 at 8:16 pm
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56028 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 8:19 pm to
I had a stroke over three years ago. Just last week I received a bill for over $400 itemized as “residual charges”. Since I haven’t satisfied my deductible for this year, I’m gonna have to pay the whole thing.
Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
17185 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 8:22 pm to
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Publish rates openly and transparently


This is coming, but be aware that the government is involved, so they are really missing the mark and not making it easy.

Surprise billing mandates are being implemented, rate sheets are being required, but not in a user friendly consumable format.

When advanced EOB takes affect, it will provide the solution everyone is looking for, but it has been delayed due to provider pushback. I estimate it will take place mid to late 2023
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 8:22 pm to
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That only applies if paid in full. Outstanding unpaid balances still on there, and even settlements still on there.


That’s only one piece to the change.

quote:

*You'll have more time before unpaid medical debt is reported on your credit report: Unpaid medical debt that is currently in collections for one year will be reported on credit reports. This is an increase from six months that was enacted in 2017.

*Starting in the first half of 2023, Equifax, Experian and TransUnion will no longer include medical debt in collections under $500 on credit reports.
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