re: Maybe we can all agree... There is a culture problem... It's not racism.

Taught to feel guilty
As a young white man
Because your forefathers
Fought to protect their land
Taught to feel guilty
Of the whole White race
That your history is tainted
A big frickin disgrace

Now that you are older
Let the truth be told
It's okay to be proud and
It's okay to be bold and

It's okay to be White

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Like, just because people in a different culture than you may speak, dress, or act differently from you and your friends, that doesn't make your culture superior to theirs.

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you're right. just because cultures are different and one isn't the dominant culture of a given area does not mean the dominant culture is superior

values are what makes culture superior

sagging alone is not indicative of much, but it is a characteristic of an inferior culture. same with speech patterns. that's a better example. just because a person doesn't speak well does not mean that he or she is not intelligent or capable of intelligent things. but it's a sign that they are from an area where the dominant group engages in a characteristic of lesser culture. this is pretty universal, also. every place and every language has a lower/street form that indicates (but doesn't prove) the same thing about the cultural influences of that speech

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But it is now wrong in our society to point out how bankrupt this one particular culture is to society at large.

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well i've posted this many times, but this is the major issue with the proliferation of "white privilege"

at its heart, "white privilege" is privilege bestowed upon white people due to the western-based culture that has led to our dominance in the world. the use of WP as a criticism is that those who are not part of this culture are behind in society due to not being included. what happens is the superior culture becomes criticized, not for its values, but in order to lower it to the level of whatever inferior culture is trying to be defended in that argument.

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at its heart, "white privilege" is privilege bestowed upon white people due to the western-based culture that has led to our dominance in the world. the use of WP as a criticism is that those who are not part of this culture are behind in society due to not being included. what happens is the superior culture becomes criticized, not for its values, but in order to lower it to the level of whatever inferior culture is trying to be defended in that argument.

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Agreed.

Sadly, the sheep only see inequity. They still are incapable of delineating the reason for the inequity, i.e., one culture is vastly superior.

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what you describe is the exact definition of racism, you think one race is superior to another

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He didn't mention race. But you sure did.

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I think racism, for the most, part is pretty much dead.

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How's the weather in that bubble you live in?

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Values such as?

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-valuing education and devoting tons of personal -resources to being educated
-avoiding risky sexual choices
-avoiding behavior that can lead to criminal charges
-developing a work history early while developing the behavioral patterns to translate that in future jobs

you go find me kids (of any race) who are suffering from economic troubles in their 20s and i guarantee you they didn't follow those values.

we can get into nitpicky things (that can be overcome, but help), like speaking in the elevated tongue, not using drugs, not smoking, dressing to avoid looking like a person of lower value, etc. these aren't going to end your hopes like the ones above but they help.

Will always be an issue. Always. I'm not the half-empty guy, it's just a reality.

Racism is a learned behavior compounded by ignorance. For a nation to be so "religious" we sure are good on ignoring God's Golden Rule, but don't hesitate to say we're a good Christian who attends services weekly etc...

SMH

"Here is one reason why multiculturalism seldom works. Suppose that one culture has a strong work ethic, fairly strict sexual morality, low illegitimacy, low crime, respect for study and proper use of the national language. Suppose that another culture is precisely opposite, or approximately opposite, as for example the Moslems in France. If the first group is truly dominant, and imposes its standards—you will do your homework, kid—the second group may successfully assimilate.

But suppose that the dominant group isn´t really that dominant and can´t, or won´t, impose its values. How—in a school, say—do you mix the toilet-mouthed with the well-spoken, girls who expect to marry before giving birth with fifteen-year-old single mothers pushing strollers into class? Or if the courts have decided that “motherfricker· is an entire language to itself, and that eradication of the word would constitute imperial culture-abuse? The effect will always be to lower the civilized group to the uncivilized.

Here we are, and there is no turning back. All that made the old culture what it was is now held to be elitism, sin most dreadful, and all that we held to be wrong is now said to be “authentic,” whatever that means, or else the consequence of ineluctable social forces."

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