re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

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Which is why the Ad Hoc team waited, after Paddock put 200 rounds through the door at them. If he had kept firing on the crowd they would have made a harder push to get to Paddock, but since he had stopped firing they didn't feel it was necessary to take that risk.

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Jumping Jesus farts

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He started stockpiling weapons a year ago when it was clear Trump would be POTUS.

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And did it become clear Trump would win in October? I think even Trump himself wasn't confident he would win. He started the whole "the election is rigged folks" right after the audio of him saying he grabs women by their pussy.

It didn't become clear Trump would win until election night when the results came in. I think that's all just coincidence.

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Must say, that is pretty logical and resolves many questions regarding the end of the timeline. I haven't read through it critically yet but appears solid based on first read.

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Thanks bro. Most of that is just the official narrative, but laid out in a way you can actually read what happened, step by step. But I combined it with what I think happened based on the leaked photos, a few of the "sources" leaks, and some of the hints and smaller facts the sheriff/under-sheriff have dropped.

It also makes sense of the question everyone has had: Why did Paddock kill himself if he was prepared for, and trying to, escape? Which is what law enforcement has stated since the beginning of the investigation.

I've tried to avoid going way off on the crazy train, especially since it would be easy to do with the feds obviously hiding a ton of information about this whole mess. I feel like it is a good explanation for why they have been hiding some of the facts surrounding his death.

Because if there is a 2nd gunshot wound, it certainly explains a lot, but it is a major problem for police. They have to firmly determine that he did it to himself. Because if not, they will have to go through all of the possible scenarios that might have happened. Such as, were the cops the ones who shot him, was there someone else there with Paddock who shot him and escaped, did Campos have a gun and return fire and hit him....etc. There are a lot of possibilities, and they have to make double/triple/quadruple sure they have the right series of events before going public with it.

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That's literally what Lombardo said happened.

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Lets wait till tomorrow when the new official report comes out.

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Placebeaux

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Check my edit on that post. I want more of your thoughts than a laughing emoji.

I'd also like you to clarify what you think happened, since you think what Lombardo said isn't the truth. Which, by the way, the radio calls from that night show the officers backed off and waited on SWAT to arrive because Paddock had ceased firing on the crowd.

Edit: you kind of addressed my first request from this post.

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So he frantically accidently shot himself yet he never jammed his AR with a bump stock?

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Lombardo stated that several of the rifles were jammed. Never gave an exact number, but several were jammed.

I even said I think one of the jammed rifles is what he accidentally shot himself with. Because it went off when he was jostling it around in his haste to escape.

A) I already said, on page 388, that the 200 shots into the hall statement is fishy because none of the officers called in that shots were being fired at them. Which is something they are required to so by department regulations for the safety of other officers, and because of liability insurance.

The next points are based on the assumption that Paddock did fire shots at the officers in the hallway.

B) He did kill himself fairly quickly. The 2 singular shots, which occurred by themselves suggest this. According to that chart it was 10 seconds between the shots. I had earlier stated it was "roughly 30 seconds" because I couldn't remember the exact timing. 10 seconds sounds plausible. He wouldn't have waited around. He probably accidentally shot himself, thought the cops would be rushing in since he was no longer at the door to keep them at bay, and decided to go ahead and off himself. Remember, when the human brain is getting massive doses of adrenaline, the speed at which it processes information increases dramatically. That 10 seconds probably felt like an eternity to him while he was trying to figure out what to do. Also, while laying on the floor he could no longer see the monitor he was using to watch the hallway. So while laying on the floor, he had no way to know the cops weren't coming back. He just assumed they would be, an assumption we would all make in his shoes.

C) Lombardo clearly stated 200 rounds was a rough estimate of how many shots Paddock fired. So the 200 shots is probably an innacurate number. They had not counted the shots when that statement was made. It could have been far less, half that number would be more plausible a figure, and would still look like enough shots that someone could easily estimate double that number just by glancing at the bullet holes.

The 25, 28, and 44 shot totals that occurred roughly a minute before the final 2 singualr shots, are definitely the shots he fired at the initial "ad hoc" police unit. Regardless of what that chart's supposition is.

D) It would help sell the accuracy of that chart if there weren't spelling errors everywhere.

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Need an independent investigation

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and who might you suggest? China, Russia or N Korea?

Who made this chart?

haven't followed, did they design the chart to fit the according narrative?