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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:45 am to
Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:45 am to
Enough psychoanalyzing.

Let's get back to conspiracies?

I don't want to get banned posting the pic of the shooter dead on the floor. You can look it up yourselves.

But why is the "13" tattooed on his neck in this pic...



No where to be found in the pic of him deceased?
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:45 am to
I have diagnosed impulse control issues. What this guy did was not impulsive
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:45 am to
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Yeah I agree to an extent, but there are tons of people struggling with mental health issues that you would never ever guess they had anything going on. I've had a family member commit suicide when he seemed to be one of the happiest, friendliest people, honestly a life of the party type. No one had a clue he was struggling until it happened.


Those people don't come up with a mariculture plan to inflict mass casualties.

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And everyone who has said that he didn't seem to have any issues with mental health, has also said he was a very reclusive, private person. So people really didn't even know him very well.


Being private and reclusive doesn't mean you have mental issues so I'm not sure what you are trying to say
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:47 am to
I'm no professional picture inspector but I don't think that's a tattoo.
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Posted by Festus
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:47 am to
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With Valium, these effects can include fits of rage or violence, aggression, excitement, irritability and hostility. A person may lose control of his impulses which can lead to anti-social behavior, especially among the very young and elderly. Some people may consider suicide. Others may become emotionally blunted.

Well, I could see if it was simply a suicide, on impulse. Emotionally blunted, yeah, I could see it. Keep in mind, this wasn't a fit of rage. This was planned and calculated, over months.

And approximately 40 million Americans take it, or something similar, with none known to murder and injure hundreds of innocent people.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:48 am to
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I'm no professional picture inspector but I don't think that's a tattoo.


We can argue whether it's a "13" or a "B", but it looks like a tat to me.

Eta: Do you think it's a shadow of his adam's apple?
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 11:50 am
Posted by EA6B
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:49 am to
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When mental illness is the cause, you generally have people coming out quickly to make that known. The fact that nothing of that nature has been said by friends/family, makes me diwcount that possibilty some.


In a large number of suicides family and friends had no idea there was any kind of problem.
Posted by dfintlyHmmrd
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:50 am to
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Being private and reclusive doesn't mean you have mental issues so I'm not sure what you are trying to say


I'm trying to say that people may not have known about, he could have kept it secret and not told anyone about it, which people with mental illness often do.

The reason we knew about Holmes and Cho's mental illness was because they had told people they had issues prior to their shootings.
Posted by Rhino5
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:50 am to
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Why can't people think this was just one crazy mother fricker that wanted to take a bunch of people out? Does it make them feel better thinking this had to be part of a group?


He was crazy, but the way this guy lived his life, very strategic and detail-oriented, it's huge question mark on how he forgot to check the crowd-type he was firing on. Hell they could be arresting people right now for all we know.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:51 am to
Sooooo, any word on Marilou?

Did they release her? Or keep her in custody? That could be telling.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:51 am to
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It is just like the JFK conspiracies, they stem from the fact that people don't want to live with the fact that one person alone can kill the president of the U.S., that one crazy demented old man can do this would make the world too dangerous to live in, so there just has to be a more complicated explanation.


Why do people keep saying stuff like this? There is nothing to accept, no one knows why paddock killed and injured those people. If the LVMPD come out and say or did say that the dude was one crazy motherfricker who snapped, then, for a lot of us, that would be that. But they haven't said that so we theorize the reason why.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:53 am to
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I'm trying to say that people may not have known about, he could have kept it secret and not told anyone about it, which people with mental illness often do.


So when did the mental illness onset start? The only thing I am 99% sure he did hide from those close to him was his plan to commit such an evil act.
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Posted by TigerFred
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:54 am to
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I don't think this dude had any plans on getting caught. He was going to die before he went in.


I'm not so sure about the dying part. Sheriff said he an escape plan.

Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:55 am to
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Because people involved keep saying there is a clear motive.


which could still be his motive only with no outside influence.

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The lack of info makes us think they are really investigation some larger plot.


if it was I would think there would have been more shooters in his room...especially with the amount of guns he had
Posted by EA6B
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:55 am to
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Everyone has a motive. They all want it to be known. Otherwise, what they did would be pointless


He was a life long loner, other people had no real value to him, because of depression or other mental issue he decided he wanted to die, and chose to do it in a way that the entire world would remember who he was, that is the motive.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:56 am to
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I'm not so sure about the dying part. Sheriff said he an escape plan.


Did they ever say what it was because he barricaded the staircase.
Posted by Steauxn
Philadelphia, PA
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:57 am to
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I'm not so sure about the dying part. Sheriff said he an escape plan.



He ate a bullet pretty quick for having an escape plan.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:58 am to
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He was a life long loner, other people had no real value to him, because of depression or other mental issue he decided he wanted to die, and chose to do it in a way that the entire world would remember who he was, that is the motive.


Oh get off your high horse. At least most of us can accept other theories, but you're going to come here and suggest that you know the truth? Whatever.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:58 am to
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I'm not so sure about the dying part. Sheriff said he an escape plan.

Another part of the puzzle that I'm really curious to learn. He's 30 something floors up, unleashing gunfire from hell. His car was hundreds of yards away in a parking lot. He knows that LEO and SWAT will be everywhere, not to mention just the tons of people in the casino. What exactly was his plan to escape?
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:59 am to
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I'm not so sure about the dying part. Sheriff said he an escape plan.



He ate a bullet pretty quick for having an escape plan.


You could chalk that up to the old Mike Tyson theory though...."everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth"
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