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Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 1:52 pm to
LINK

live leak video ^

best one ive seen about the entire thing. crazy how everyone was confused during the initial round

there was about ~30 second delay until he started his 2nd round, then ppl started freaking out
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 1:54 pm to
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But in the spirit of the root word terror, this is terrorism.


The root of terrorism is political motivation. That's the very definition of it. Without political motivation, it's a mass murder.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 1:54 pm to
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I don't understand why Sarah Sanders wants that job. You just sit there and get peppered with gotcha questions by liberal hacks


Because its gonna really help her career. She stands up and takes their shite and knows just how to respond in kind to expose their hipocracy subtly.
Posted by ForeverGator
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 1:55 pm to
It's a mass shooting. People need to stop trying to make it something it's not. On both sides.
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 1:55 pm to
~2:30-3:15 of that video above is insanity
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 1:55 pm to
frickin hell that's hard to watch
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 1:56 pm to
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I don’t understand why he had 10 guns. I don’t understand the point of that unless he planned on putting so many rounds down that he was concerned about barrel failure from heat and thought he would need that many weapons to cycle through.

I think we keep trying to look at all of this rationally when the decisions were being made by an irrational person.

Nothing he did will make sense, there's going to be weird oddities like this and many others, because this dude wasn't thinking like we think.
Posted by NikeShox
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 1:56 pm to
Why is the only picture of the shooter a pic with his eyes closed? Just wondering
Posted by TexasTiger08
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 1:58 pm to
Miriam Webster says terror is:

1. a state of intense fear

That's what I mean at the root. I'm not saying what the govt says is an 'act' of terrorism.

No sense discussing this tedious thing any further. Back to the topic...
Posted by TigersSEC2010
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 1:59 pm to
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Why is the only picture of the shooter a pic with his eyes closed? Just wondering


He has no social media presence.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 1:59 pm to
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I think we keep trying to look at all of this rationally when the decisions were being made by an irrational person.


It seemed like it was organized and thought out pretty extensivley, which is why we are thinking rationally and logically.
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:00 pm to
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However, in order to be considered an act of terrorism, there must be political motives of some sort. At this point, they don't have any idea, and there's certainly nothing yet that clearly points to a political motive. Because of that, this isn't considered a terrorist attack. TBD.


Exactly. I just finished teaching a unit on political violence. The textbook I use for the class is one of the most common. The definition the book uses is the use of violence by nonstate actors against civilians to achieve a political goal.
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 2:00 pm
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:01 pm to
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Why is the only picture of the shooter a pic with his eyes closed? Just wondering

There's one with his eyes open.



from fox news
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:02 pm to
Girl from UF was shot. Collapsed lung. Crazy stuff
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:03 pm to
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It seemed like it was organized and thought out pretty extensivley, which is why we are thinking rationally and logically.


But so was Charles Whitman (sp?), and he was clearly insane nonetheless.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:04 pm to
First Victim Identified

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Melton attended the music festival with his wife, Heather Gulish Melton, who confirmed he was one of the victims, but said she was not yet ready to share his story.

"I want everyone to know what a kind hearted loving man he was but at this point I can barely breathe," she wrote to USA TODAY.




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According to his Facebook page, Melton lives in Big Sandy, Tenn., and was a registered nurse at Jackson-Madison County General Hospital. The couple married in June 2016, according to the wedding website The Knot.

"We were the couple that never should have met, fallen in love or had a future together....but life is funny and we believe God brought us together as soul mates," read their wedding page. "We have shared amazing times together and nearly unbearable heartaches but through it all we have grown stronger in our love for each other and our families."
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:04 pm to
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But so was Charles Whitman (sp?), and he was clearly insane nonetheless.


Doesn't mean we can't think logically. You think investigators are just like "frick it, no rational person would do this, nothing to figure out here"
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:04 pm to
It's terrorism. Plain and simple.
Posted by ForeverGator
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:06 pm to
Was Sandy Hook terrorism, then?
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:07 pm to
100%.
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