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re: Mass shooting at Atlanta area high school
Posted on 9/7/24 at 7:49 am to Bobby OG Johnson
Posted on 9/7/24 at 7:49 am to Bobby OG Johnson
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If tweet fails to load, click here. He's gonna off himself in prison sooner rather than later IMO.
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Posted on 9/7/24 at 8:16 am to Naked Bootleg
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But what’s the percentage of trans people, that seems to be the main indicator with these situations
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Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:31 am to yaboidarrell
it's not an anomaly. Still, 19 downvotes
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:28 am to SteelerBravesDawg
Charging the father for this is fricking absurd
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:33 am to upgrayedd
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Charging the father for this is fricking absurd
No it isn't.
He bought his son a fricking AR-15 knowing that he wasn't right mentally and that they had just been questioned by both the FBI and Jackson County deputies about his son's threats to shoot up a school.
That's àt worst being an accomplice if not outright complicit.
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:37 am to upgrayedd
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Charging the father for this is fricking absurd
I think charging the father is appropriate but I think they are going are overdoing it.
There are several solutions to the school gun violence problem, but I think the biggest solution that will help is holding parents accountable. I think they'll send a message with this shooting that parents have skin in the game. Parents will be much more aware of their child's actions when they have skin in the game as well.
I don't think murder should be the charge here. At the end of the day the father wasn't the one who pulled the trigger.
With that said, it was gross negligence to provide a weapon to a child that you know has already talked about shooting up a school and has mental issues.
I think it should be involuntary manslaughter, child endangerment and child abuse but not murder. I would say he should face 15 - 20 years but still have a chance to get out near the end of his life.
His son's life is over and he should and will never see the outside world again. The father should be severely punished, but his entire life shouldn't be over. Punish enough though to make parents aware they have skin in the game though and they need to be more involved in what their children are doing.
This post was edited on 9/7/24 at 10:39 am
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:38 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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No it isn't. He bought his son a fricking AR-15 knowing that he wasn't right mentally and that they had just been questioned by both the FBI and Jackson County deputies about his son's threats to shoot up a school. That's àt worst being an accomplice if not outright complic
Setting this precedent is going to throw so many people in jail. This is exactly the kind of emotional bullshite the left relies on to ban guns without banning guns.
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:39 am to upgrayedd
So you don't wanna hold the.parents responsible for their bad parenting?
Cool.
Cool.
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:40 am to MountaineerPatriot
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I think charging the father is appropriate but I think they are going are overdoing it.
There are several solutions to the school gun violence problem, but I think the biggest solution that will help is holding parents accountable. I think they'll send a message with this shooting that parents have skin in the game. Parents will be much more aware of their child's actions when they have skin in the game as well.
I don't think murder should be the charge here. At the end of the day the father wasn't the one who pulled the trigger.
With that said, it was gross negligence to provide a weapon to a child that you know has already talked about shooting up a school and has mental issues.
I think it should be involuntary manslaughter, child endangerment and child abuse but not murder. I would say he should face 15 - 20 years but still have a chance to get out near the end of his life.
His son's life is over and he should and will never see the outside world again. The father should be severely punished, but his entire life shouldn't be over. Punish enough though to make parents aware they have skin in the game though and they need to be more involved in what their children are doing.
I can agree with this.
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:44 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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So you don't wanna hold the.parents responsible for their bad parenting? Cool.
Ok, cool.
We’ll arrest the parent of every kid that starts a fight in school and charge them with accessory to assault.
It blows me away how weak minded you retarded Karens are.
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:44 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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NEW: Colin Gray rocks back and forth at his first hearing after his son k*lled four innocent people at the Apalachee High School sh**ting in Georgia.
Gray was charged with involuntary mansl*ughter, second degree murder and cruelty to children.
The father faces up to a whopping 180 years in prison.
His next hearing will be on December 4.
Gray is accused of purchasing his 14 year old son a rifle for Christmas.
I'll admit I'm catching up on all of this as I was hiking up in West Virginia on Wednesday and Thursday when this all went down. I heard about it but didn't pay too much attention to it.
Now that I'm catching up, yeah looking at the dad he isn't long for this world. That kid will probably end his own life within the first 5 years of being in jail. Not sure if the dad has a bail option or not, but if he is out on bail I could easily see him ending his own life before the trial even happens. Obviously neither one of them are right mentally.
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:47 am to upgrayedd
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We’ll arrest the parent of every kid that starts a fight in school and charge them with accessory to assault.
Now you're putting words in my mouth. I never said that. But in this case, the parents(moreso the dad) absolutely bear responsibility for their child's malfeasance.
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It blows me away how weak minded you retarded Karens are.
Melt. Holy projection. Let me guess, you don't have kids?
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:49 am to MountaineerPatriot
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Colin Gray, 54, has been charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second-degree murder and eight counts of cruelty to children, the GBI said Thursday.
Upon reading these charges, I would say the four counts of involuntary manslaughter and the eight counts of cruelty to children should definitely stand. I would not agree with the two counts of second-degree murder, to me that is the overreach.
The definition of second degree murder:
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Second Degree Murder
2nd-degree murder or second-degree manslaughter is still a very serious crime but is a step down in severity when compared to the 1st degree. In general terms, a 2nd-degree murder is one that doesn’t have any kind of premeditation and may only have been intended to cause harm, rather than death.
The state defines second-degree murder as any type of unlawful killing that is done with malice aforethought but without premeditation.
The dad did not actually pull the trigger and kill anyone so I don't see how the second degree murder charges stand. If they do I think that's going too far and sets a very dangerous precedent.
The other are appropriate and enough to send the father away for a good amount of time and send a message. Again, the father should face serious time, but his life shouldn't 100% be over in my opinion.
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:53 am to MountaineerPatriot
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. Again, the father should face serious time, but his life shouldn't 100% be over in my opinion.
His life as he knows it is over.
Wouldn't be shocked if he offs himself before his next court appearance in December
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:53 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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Now you're putting words in my mouth. I never said that. But in this case, the parents(moreso the dad) absolutely bear responsibility for their child's malfeasance.
I’m telling you this is the natural progression of this kind of precedence
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:57 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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His life as he knows it is over.
Wouldn't be shocked if he offs himself before his next court appearance in December
Completely agree. I also think there's a very good chance he offs himself before his trial or during his trial. If not probably within the first few years of being in jail. Same with the shooter obviously.
Obviously the court of public opinion is different than our official justice system. No different than someone who is accused of rape who is found innocent in the justice system. They are never "innocent" again in the court of public opinion and their life, as they knew it, is still over.
But in the eyes of the law, his life shouldn't 100% be over. The goal should be he face severe punishment, and that punishment would then hopefully send a message to all parents, but the punishment shouldn't be the same as what the shooter will face.
I just think the second degree murder is a dangerous precedent. If it sticks, then you are saying parents are responsible for essentially any murder their child commits before they are 18. So if someone's 17 year old son joins a gang and murders someone, then is the parent also guilty of murder? Again just stick with the manslaughter and child cruelty charge IMO.
This post was edited on 9/7/24 at 11:03 am
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:59 am to upgrayedd
I will agree with another poster that the murder charge might be an overreach , but the manslaughter and child endangerment charges are absolutely on target.
Posted on 9/7/24 at 11:02 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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I will agree with another poster that the murder charge might be an overreach , but the manslaughter and child endangerment charges are absolutely on target.
If you think it ends there, you’re sorely mistaken.
Posted on 9/7/24 at 11:03 am to SteelerBravesDawg
I can't wait for the parents of these gang members to start getting thrown in jail.
Posted on 9/7/24 at 11:03 am to upgrayedd
quote:Did they buy their kid brads knuckles after being told the kid liked to fight?
We’ll arrest the parent of every kid that starts a fight in school and charge them with accessory to assault.
Posted on 9/7/24 at 11:04 am to Jcorye1
quote:They should if they are buying the guns for them after being told they are in a gang
can't wait for the parents of these gang members to start getting thrown in jail.
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