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re: Mass casualty shooting in Minneapolis at a church school 20 victims

Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:12 am to
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18949 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:12 am to
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Cry all you want no one wants to answer the questions.


You morons think inanimate objects are the root cause of the problem, no one wants to answer a fundamentally dishonest, uneducated premise you cling to like a religious totem.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78348 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:22 am to
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You morons think inanimate objects are the root cause of the problem, no one wants to answer a fundamentally dishonest, uneducated premise you cling to like a religious totem.


Lol, how do you think we should fix the problem if not guns.

I wont argue that human nature is probably the root of this…

But can you tell me a better consumer product for killing people?
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14568 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:23 am to
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what are your ideas to fix the gun violence problem after that?


No one is killed by "a gun violence". Guns are not autonomous.


Since guns are in fact a political issue, why don't we discuss why the vast majority of violence committed with firearms in America is perpetrated by people under the very political umbrella that wants to- in many cases- ban them?

Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18949 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:39 am to
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Lol, how do you think we should fix the problem if not guns.


It's precious you think this is a problem that can be fixed.

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But can you tell me a better consumer product for killing people?


Well, as far as so-called "assault weapons" are concerned, fists, feet, and blunt instruments kill more per annum. Can you name another consumer product explicitly protected in the Bill of Rights?

Face it, you argue from a point of poor education and willful ignorance. Your kind have had the same problem for 50 years of gun-control advocacy, amazing how nothing has changed in all that time.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:39 am to
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Lol, how do you think we should fix the problem if not guns.

I wont argue that human nature is probably the root of this…


Would less guns mean less gun violence? Statistically, maybe, probably.

Would less guns violate a constitutional right for law abiding citizens to protect themselves? Yes, absolutely.

You’re either for restricting/removing constitutional rights for law abiding citizens or against it, without any assurance gun violence wouldn’t be replaced in some other form.

For me, this is a policing issue. We do not have the level of accountability to meet the rights we’ve been given. Restricting/removing rights to meet the inadequacies of under and defunded policing seems absolutely arse backwards.

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But can you tell me a better consumer product for killing people?


If I needed to kill people, I would probably invent some injection that would be pushed through all the red tape and then make it mandatory for anyone who wants work or education and then require them to come to me to receive it.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:45 am to


Anyone going to ask Casey Weinstein about this post?
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14568 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:49 am to
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But can you tell me a better consumer product for killing people?


Fentanyl comes to mind.
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
2502 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:50 am to
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Like I said, shoot every trans person into the sun, what are your ideas to fix the gun violence problem after that?


The policies and people you support commit 90% of the violent crimes in this country.

You've openly called anyone against the trans movement a bigot, repeatedly. If you are willing to do that, then we can never discuss the other elephant in the room regarding violent crime, because you will play the same card.

You are the worst of the worst. I apologize for stooping to your level and replying to you. Won't happen again.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:50 am to
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But can you tell me a better consumer product for killing people?


Cars, trucks, fertilizer, pressure cookers, poisons, buffets, cigarettes, ect.

Firearms have also been a huge portion of our countries history, yet now they are a problem. Also, for most of our countries history, private individuals have had better firearms than our military members.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 10:53 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78348 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:52 am to
I know about the 2nd amendment.

I an asking isn’t worth this?

Or do you have any way to fix this without pulling gun completely?
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35898 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:58 am to
So the dad went to Wisconsin and is a psycho progressive?

Shocked face: ON [OFF]
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:59 am to
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I an asking isn’t worth this?


Yes. The unfortunate side affect of freedom is individuals are left to their choices. While these shootings are awful, I cannot and will not give up my guns (that mind you have not done any damage to anyone) because of others. You keep arguing with people lumping trans together, but you're doing the same thing with gun owners.

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Or do you have any way to fix this without pulling gun completely?


Pure black/white thinking. There is no way to completely fix this problem. Bad and crazy people will always exist, and for them not to exist, draconian measures will need to be applied. We can work on getting and keeping families intact, civic responsibility/pride, and various defenses at schools. By blaming an inanimate object, you are dehumanizing the people committing these atrocities.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:01 am to
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So the dad went to Wisconsin and is a psycho progressive? Shocked face: ON [OFF]


Well a shocking number of shooters have direct connections to intelligence agencies.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35898 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:02 am to
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Since guns are in fact a political issue, why don't we discuss why the vast majority of violence committed with firearms in America is perpetrated by people under the very political umbrella that wants to- in many cases- ban them?




Holy shite that's a really good point.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35898 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:04 am to
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Can you name another consumer product explicitly protected in the Bill of Rights?


They would totally stop their stomping of the bill of rights after guns, though, right? Because that's not a slippery slope like so many of the other tenets of their policy approach.

Oh, wait.

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In the UK, it is illegal to carry most knives in public without a "good reason". The only exception is a manual folding pocket knife with a blade less than 3 inches (7.62 cm) long. Carrying any other knife, or a non-folding (locking) blade of any length, in public without a good reason is illegal and can result in prison sentences.


ETA: One way to prevent more gun crimes is to vigorously enforce the myriad gun laws that are already on the books. Look up the perpetrator for just about any murder in a place like Chicago, and I can pretty much guarantee you they had previously broken a gun law and were either let off with a warning, some sort of reduced sentence, or dropped charges. So it's progressives talking out of both sides of their mouths...we want more gun laws and tougher sentences and restrictions, but they won't enforce the ones already in place, especially when it relates to habitual offenders (ie their "base").

How about we start there, and look at what these Soros DA's and judges are enabling?

From a politically motivated standpoint we could also acknowledge the rhetoric coming from the left and have an honest conversation about what it's creating. It's not MAGA folks shooting up places. Why might that be?
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 11:15 am
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18949 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:10 am to
quote:

I know about the 2nd amendment.



Obviously you don't nor do you even grasp the legal landscape surrounding it.


quote:

I an asking isn’t worth this?


Worth what? What exactly are you asking?


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Or do you have any way to fix this


There is no way to fix basic human nature just like any kind of gun-control is not a path to reducing violent crimes. Just ignorant to think otherwise.
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
2502 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:12 am to
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Holy shite that's a really good point.


It is, until you realize that progressives would never take guns away from people like yesterday's shooter, nor would they dare go to the places where 90% of the gun crimes are committed.

Reality is, they don't want their political enemies having the guns. They know it isn't Trump supporters committing 90% of violent crimes.

If they got their wet dream of gun confiscation, the first place they will go to are suburbs in the south.
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
5087 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:28 am to
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Guns don’t kill people. People kill people



Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33565 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:36 am to
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Like I said, shoot every trans person into the sun, what are your ideas to fix the gun violence problem after that?


ban guns, itll just be some other tool after that. Whats your solution then?
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14568 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:16 pm to
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Reality is, they don't want their political enemies having the guns.


That's it.

Anyone who truly believes their lust for disarming is about "public safety".....is simply a fool.
Look at their current reactions to using federal powers to stop crime in "their" cities. They aren't trying to hide the contempt.

They hate anyone they perceive as a threat to their destructive ideology.

My take? Too bad.
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