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re: Mass casualties (Update 17 deaths ) with the Duck boat ride in Branson, MO

Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:37 am to
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
113794 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:37 am to
I went on one once. It had a canvas top supported by metal poles... but nothing on the sides like this one. They do that to make customers more comfortable I guess... keep the sun off you. But in a situation like this one, having it completely enclosed became a death trap.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103441 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:43 am to
quote:

Have you ever swam in any type of current? Looking at the video you would have to jump in 500 yards up river in order to make it to the boat. And that’s if you even make it.

You would need to have high-level / coast guard training to even attempt something like that.



Yeah, no one from that showboat dinner cruise had any chance of swimming out to the duck boat with a life vest on in time to help... they'd be swimming against the wind/current the whole time. They'd just turn themselves into another person that needed rescuing.
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
16645 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:48 am to
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Yes, you are correct and it’s sickening. These fat retards are so obsessed with filming things for Facebook, they are willing to watch children drown and not do shite to help.




It appears that there was a boat, which could be a rescue boat, about 20 yards behind the duck boat.
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
11038 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:52 am to
Agree. Nothing you can do watching from the restaurant. Though I’d be getting super antsy watching this whole scene play out.

If I was in that boat, the first time my feet got wet I’m in exit mode. I’d tell the captain to F off. Not to mention you’re at eye level with water and waves, just sitting there and watching in a tin can.
Posted by JPLIII
Broussard - terd supporter
Member since Jan 2008
22630 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:53 am to
quote:

It appears that there was a boat, which could be a rescue boat


I could be wrong, but it looked to me like a ski boat or something similar. Hard to tell for sure in the quick glance given in the video
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:56 am to
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So, it appears to me after watching the video, that it may have been one of those "everyone please stay calm and please stay seated" scenarios that went badly. From the video, its pretty clear that there was a point where, and the captain you would think had to see this, the bow of the boat was heavy and obviously starting to take water. At that point you get folks out of that boat as quickly as possible. They all would have already had the pfd's on at that point, right???


This ride obviously attracts families, with small children, with a PFD or not as rough as that ocean was if they abandon the vessel children would likely have died, period. That has to be a hard call to make if you think you have any chance of keeping the boat afloat.

Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
16645 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:56 am to
Id like to think the captain signaled for help as soon as the boat started struggling. That would give rescuers 4 minutes to get there. Not sure what response times should be, but that seems about the time.
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 10:05 am
Posted by TxWadingFool
Middle Coast
Member since Sep 2014
5337 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:56 am to
I see tear away velcro-ed canvas tops coming to any that are still out there, no way I'd take on the liability of putting folks in a floating coffin with someone that took a one day coast guard captains class but I'm sure someone out will still be doing it.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:56 am to
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So, it appears to me after watching the video, that it may have been one of those "everyone please stay calm and please stay seated" scenarios that went badly. From the video, its pretty clear that there was a point where, and the captain you would think had to see this, the bow of the boat was heavy and obviously starting to take water. At that point you get folks out of that boat as quickly as possible. They all would have already had the pfd's on at that point, right???




Right.

I know hindsight is 20/20 but if me and my family were on that boat we would have jump in the water as soon as I recognized the boat was going down. But me and my family are very good swimmers and I know that is not an option for some of the passengers.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:02 am to
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Have you ever swam in any type of current? Looking at the video you would have to jump in 500 yards up river in order to make it to the boat. And that’s if you even make it.

You would need to have high-level / coast guard training to even attempt something like that.


Yes.

In fact in high school and college I windsurfed and used to pray for storms like that (with a short board and tiny sail). With that said when you are seeking that kind of weather you are prepared as in trained, proper equipment, and in good physical shape.
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 10:03 am
Posted by arkyhawk
SWMO
Member since Jan 2013
8116 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:03 am to
By all accounts, the staff and people on the Showboat Branson Belle took many aboard and saved as many lives as they could. For reference, this is what that boat looks like...



Y'all are dumb if you think the old people in the video should have done anything more than they did. They would have just gotten in the way of the staff on the boat who are probably much more trained than they are. And, as many have said, no chance they could simply jump overboard and swim to the other boat without dying themselves.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:06 am to
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Y'all are dumb if you think the old people in the video should have done anything more than they did.


That's why I said in my post, "I know that is not an option for some of the passengers".

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And, as many have said, no chance they could simply jump overboard and swim to the other boat without dying themselves.


But there were 18 survivors so that must have been an option from some of the other passengers. They were probably strong swimmers and/or donned PFDs in sufficient time.
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 10:11 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:21 am to
Apparently, this particular storm was warned 30 minutes before it hit. Someone belongs in jail.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66520 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:24 am to
quote:

Have you ever swam in any type of current? Looking at the video you would have to jump in 500 yards up river in order to make it to the boat. And that’s if you even make it.

You would need to have high-level / coast guard training to even attempt something like that.


Yeah. I'm laughing at all these billy badasses saying the people on that boat should have done more.
Posted by Bossier2323
Bossier CIty
Member since Sep 2014
1916 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:31 am to
Makes sense. Just sit there and watch kids drown

ETA: also film it and upload it to your Facebook like the original fat retard did
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 10:32 am
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:33 am to
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Apparently, this particular storm was warned 30 minutes before it hit. Someone belongs in jail.



Yea the legal ramifications after this are going to be interesting
Posted by cjburny
Echo
Member since Aug 2008
22 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:35 am to
I was on a pontoon boat in this lake all day yesterday.
Got a weather alert at 6:30 and went to marina and parked.
I can tell you the wind and water got extremely bad about 7:00.
Knocked some trees down on the lakeside where we are staying.
Feel horrible for those people on that duck.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:35 am to
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Makes sense. Just sit there and watch kids drown



These people are sitting there at the dinner table.

You expect them to run outside, conveniently find a pfd because you know those are just always lying around, and jump into that water and swim to that boat?

Your heart is in the right spot but its not logical. You would have just become another person to rescue
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107909 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:42 am to
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Your heart is in the right spot but its not logical. You would have just become another person to rescue
Bossier has actually posted his pictures on the OB.

He is actually fat


He would have jumped in and likely caused the death of someone else trying to rescue his fat self
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:44 am to
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