Started By
Message

re: Man urinates on the altar in St. Peter's Basilica

Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:22 pm to
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53601 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:22 pm to
Foo belongs to a tiny sect of Presbyterians and his sect has about 10,000 congregants in the entire USA.
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
13193 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:22 pm to
Unnecessary and borderline evil.
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 8:25 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45785 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

it is NOT OK to to desecrate a building where the Name of Jesus is venerated and He is worshiped and proclaimed as God. No disciple of Jesus would be OK with this happening in any church's denomination, even one where scholarly disagreements can happen.
Again, I don't condone the behavior.

I don't think the difference between Catholics and Protestants is merely one of scholarly disagreement. They teach a false gospel, which is the only reason why I'm not going to get up and arms. If this happened to a Baptist, Methodist, or non-denominational church that proclaims the gospel of Jesus Christ, I'd be much more upset by it.

In history, there was a big disagreement about icon veneration in Christianity, where some Christians would break into churches and destroy windows, paintings, statues, and other images of the Trinity, Mary, the saints, and so on. The iconoclasts thought they were doing what Israel was commanded to do in the OT by destroying idols.

quote:

I've respected your Christian convictions, but you might want to put down the Jack Chick pamplet long enough to educate yourself:
I've never read that pamphlet. My disdain is for the organization of the Roman Catholic church and its leadership. If lay Catholics were being urinated on, for example, I'd be more upset.
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 7:34 pm
Posted by Mellow Drama
Making Groceries
Member since Aug 2020
4656 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

You won't persuade Foo from hating on the Catholic Church here on Political Talk. He's been doing this all day every day for decades.


lol hope springs eternal.

quote:

sect of Presbyterianism has about ten thousand congregants in the ENTIRE United States.


it would NOT be okay if some idiot peed in the sanctuary of that particular sect of Presbyterianism either.
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
13193 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:26 pm to
Jesus’s holiness is untouchable by even the most disgusting attempts to defile purity. It’s Iike a toddler trying to throw a ball over right field at Fenway. Utterly laughable and insufficient.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45785 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

What if the guy set the altar on fire? Would that upset you?
I'm not of the personal opinion that it is good to destroy private property. No individual should urinate on the alter or set it on fire.

I'm not going to be upset by it, though. Like I said, I don't condone the behavior.

quote:

What if some Muslims started burning Catholic churches? Would that upset you?
Sure. Muslims don't know the difference between Catholics and Protestants. They just see "Christians" and attack, so I extrapolate that out and would be upset about such an attack.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53601 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:28 pm to
Please remind us again - what is the name of your particular sect of Presbyterianism?
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5931 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

Catholics incubated and spread Christianity for nearly 2 centuries and they also didnt fall for the dispensationalism scam like American evangelicals did.

Catholics have their issues now with wokeism but I still respect many things about them

Our nation is built on Anglo Protestant values, something Catholics couldn't compete with in their spread into Latin America, where Catholics fell for extreme far left values over the last century. And they are at the forefront of bringing it here.

Catholics should not be pointing their finger at any other Christian sect.
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 7:32 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45785 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

Foo, YOUR particular sect of Presbyterianism has about ten thousand congregants in the ENTIRE United States. 10,000 people belong to your church in the USA. Maybe that's a message that the Holy Spirit doesn't think much about your religion?
We've gone over this before. You can't judge truth by the numbers.

Even so, my denomination is in close communion with other similar denominations, and if we judged by that association (NAPARC), that would expand out to nearly 600,000 members. I also call most non NAPARC Protestant churches as true branches of Christ's one Church, which would put me as one in millions of Christ's visible Church.

It seems this is difficult for you to comprehend, since you keep bringing up that fallacious argument, as if numbers determine truth. You belong to a church that teaches absolute exclusivity, and anyone not a member of Rome is outside of salvation. I don't hold that exclusivist claim for my denomination.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45785 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

Foo has absolute disdain and disrespect for the Pope and the Catholic Church, and he makes that very clear all day and every day here on Political Talk.
I certainly do. I have pity on lay Catholics, but I have nothing but disgust for the RCC as an organization for leading so many astray with a false gospel.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13733 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

I don't condone such behavior, but I understand it.


C'mon, dude, you are better than that. If not, you should be. It's not understandable at all. You SHOULD no more understand that behavior than you should understand a Baptist or a Presby going into a mosque and taking a leak on whatever sort of altar they have. It's just not right, period. I suspect, though, that you already know this.
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 7:38 pm
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53601 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:34 pm to
Foo, you are not telling us the whole truth. You are being intentionally misleading.

You quoted us here in PT the exact name of your particular denomination and the record is very clear that your sect has about 10,000 members in the entire USA.

What is the exact and full name of your church and denomination? You told us before. Please remind us.
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 7:36 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45785 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

Please remind us again - what is the name of your particular sect of Presbyterianism?
Doesn't matter. Your usage of membership numbers is fallacious. Specifically, it's the argumentum ad populum fallacy. You think because my denomination is smaller than others that it must not teach the truth.

Israel once had the majority of its people in the OT participating in idolatry and rejecting God's commandments, yet that didn't mean that the majority was right.

You also run into the problem that there are over 2 billion Muslims in the world and just over a billion Roman Catholics. Does that mean that Islam is true because they have more followers than Roman Catholicism?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45785 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

C'mon, dude, you are better than that. If not, you should be. It's not understandable at all. You SHOULD no more understand that behavior than you should understand a Baptist or a Presby going into a mosque and taking a leak on whatever sort of altar they have. It's just not right, period. I suspect, though, that you already know this.
Why do you think I said I don't condone it?
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53601 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:41 pm to
Foo, tell us the exact name of your sect so we can all understand you better.

Why are you hiding this from us here on Religion Talk?

Do you understand how ridiculous you are for preaching here on this message board for decades while at the same time hiding the name of your particular sect of Presbyterianism?
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 7:43 pm
Posted by Mellow Drama
Making Groceries
Member since Aug 2020
4656 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:41 pm to
quote:

C'mon, dude, you are better than that. If not, you should be. It's not understandable at all. You SHOULD no more understand that behavior than you should understand a Baptist or a Presby going into a mosque and taking a leak on whatever sort of altar they have. It's just not right, period. I suspect, though, that you already know this.


Muslims should never have been brought to the USA in the first place and it would be nice if we can deport them.

HOWEVER

Taking a leak in a mosque would be wrong as well. Not because you'd get tortured and killed cause the mussies would go postal and they aren't afraid of acting violent. But pissing on something others hold dear is wrong in principle. That's for victorious dogs not human beings.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45785 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

Foo, you are not telling us the whole truth. You are being intentionally misleading.
I know what you're doing. You're trying to dox me or further claim that I don't belong to a truthful church because there aren't as many members as other denominations.

Why don't you finally address my comments about your logical fallacy? You've brought this up many times over the past few years and I keep correcting you, but you don't change your ways. Why is that?
Posted by Portballs
Member since Jun 2025
234 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

Man breaks into St. Peter's Basilica

Looks like it was pretty accessible
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45785 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

Foo, tell us the exact name of your sect so we can all understand you better.

Why are you hiding this from us here on Religion Talk?
It's irrelevant. I could just as easily be a member of the PCA or OPC denominations and then you're 10,000 argument would have to shift. It doesn't speak to truth, so why don't you do that?
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
8194 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:47 pm to
Give it a break.
Jump to page
Page 1 2 3 4 5 ... 10
Jump to page
first pageprev pagePage 3 of 10Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram