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re: Man urinates on the altar in St. Peter's Basilica
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:22 pm to cajunangelle
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:22 pm to cajunangelle
Foo belongs to a tiny sect of Presbyterians and his sect has about 10,000 congregants in the entire USA.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:22 pm to TrueTiger
Unnecessary and borderline evil.
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:22 pm to Mellow Drama
quote:Again, I don't condone the behavior.
it is NOT OK to to desecrate a building where the Name of Jesus is venerated and He is worshiped and proclaimed as God. No disciple of Jesus would be OK with this happening in any church's denomination, even one where scholarly disagreements can happen.
I don't think the difference between Catholics and Protestants is merely one of scholarly disagreement. They teach a false gospel, which is the only reason why I'm not going to get up and arms. If this happened to a Baptist, Methodist, or non-denominational church that proclaims the gospel of Jesus Christ, I'd be much more upset by it.
In history, there was a big disagreement about icon veneration in Christianity, where some Christians would break into churches and destroy windows, paintings, statues, and other images of the Trinity, Mary, the saints, and so on. The iconoclasts thought they were doing what Israel was commanded to do in the OT by destroying idols.
quote:I've never read that pamphlet. My disdain is for the organization of the Roman Catholic church and its leadership. If lay Catholics were being urinated on, for example, I'd be more upset.
I've respected your Christian convictions, but you might want to put down the Jack Chick pamplet long enough to educate yourself:
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:23 pm to Champagne
quote:
You won't persuade Foo from hating on the Catholic Church here on Political Talk. He's been doing this all day every day for decades.
lol hope springs eternal.
quote:
sect of Presbyterianism has about ten thousand congregants in the ENTIRE United States.
it would NOT be okay if some idiot peed in the sanctuary of that particular sect of Presbyterianism either.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:26 pm to TrueTiger
Jesus’s holiness is untouchable by even the most disgusting attempts to defile purity. It’s Iike a toddler trying to throw a ball over right field at Fenway. Utterly laughable and insufficient.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:27 pm to Champagne
quote:I'm not of the personal opinion that it is good to destroy private property. No individual should urinate on the alter or set it on fire.
What if the guy set the altar on fire? Would that upset you?
I'm not going to be upset by it, though. Like I said, I don't condone the behavior.
quote:Sure. Muslims don't know the difference between Catholics and Protestants. They just see "Christians" and attack, so I extrapolate that out and would be upset about such an attack.
What if some Muslims started burning Catholic churches? Would that upset you?
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:28 pm to FooManChoo
Please remind us again - what is the name of your particular sect of Presbyterianism?
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:30 pm to SirWinston
quote:
Catholics incubated and spread Christianity for nearly 2 centuries and they also didnt fall for the dispensationalism scam like American evangelicals did.
Catholics have their issues now with wokeism but I still respect many things about them
Our nation is built on Anglo Protestant values, something Catholics couldn't compete with in their spread into Latin America, where Catholics fell for extreme far left values over the last century. And they are at the forefront of bringing it here.
Catholics should not be pointing their finger at any other Christian sect.
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:32 pm to Champagne
quote:We've gone over this before. You can't judge truth by the numbers.
Foo, YOUR particular sect of Presbyterianism has about ten thousand congregants in the ENTIRE United States. 10,000 people belong to your church in the USA. Maybe that's a message that the Holy Spirit doesn't think much about your religion?
Even so, my denomination is in close communion with other similar denominations, and if we judged by that association (NAPARC), that would expand out to nearly 600,000 members. I also call most non NAPARC Protestant churches as true branches of Christ's one Church, which would put me as one in millions of Christ's visible Church.
It seems this is difficult for you to comprehend, since you keep bringing up that fallacious argument, as if numbers determine truth. You belong to a church that teaches absolute exclusivity, and anyone not a member of Rome is outside of salvation. I don't hold that exclusivist claim for my denomination.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:33 pm to Champagne
quote:I certainly do. I have pity on lay Catholics, but I have nothing but disgust for the RCC as an organization for leading so many astray with a false gospel.
Foo has absolute disdain and disrespect for the Pope and the Catholic Church, and he makes that very clear all day and every day here on Political Talk.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:34 pm to FooManChoo
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I don't condone such behavior, but I understand it.
C'mon, dude, you are better than that. If not, you should be. It's not understandable at all. You SHOULD no more understand that behavior than you should understand a Baptist or a Presby going into a mosque and taking a leak on whatever sort of altar they have. It's just not right, period. I suspect, though, that you already know this.
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:34 pm to FooManChoo
Foo, you are not telling us the whole truth. You are being intentionally misleading.
You quoted us here in PT the exact name of your particular denomination and the record is very clear that your sect has about 10,000 members in the entire USA.
What is the exact and full name of your church and denomination? You told us before. Please remind us.
You quoted us here in PT the exact name of your particular denomination and the record is very clear that your sect has about 10,000 members in the entire USA.
What is the exact and full name of your church and denomination? You told us before. Please remind us.
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:39 pm to Champagne
quote:Doesn't matter. Your usage of membership numbers is fallacious. Specifically, it's the argumentum ad populum fallacy. You think because my denomination is smaller than others that it must not teach the truth.
Please remind us again - what is the name of your particular sect of Presbyterianism?
Israel once had the majority of its people in the OT participating in idolatry and rejecting God's commandments, yet that didn't mean that the majority was right.
You also run into the problem that there are over 2 billion Muslims in the world and just over a billion Roman Catholics. Does that mean that Islam is true because they have more followers than Roman Catholicism?
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:40 pm to MemphisGuy
quote:Why do you think I said I don't condone it?
C'mon, dude, you are better than that. If not, you should be. It's not understandable at all. You SHOULD no more understand that behavior than you should understand a Baptist or a Presby going into a mosque and taking a leak on whatever sort of altar they have. It's just not right, period. I suspect, though, that you already know this.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:41 pm to FooManChoo
Foo, tell us the exact name of your sect so we can all understand you better.
Why are you hiding this from us here on Religion Talk?
Do you understand how ridiculous you are for preaching here on this message board for decades while at the same time hiding the name of your particular sect of Presbyterianism?
Why are you hiding this from us here on Religion Talk?
Do you understand how ridiculous you are for preaching here on this message board for decades while at the same time hiding the name of your particular sect of Presbyterianism?
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:41 pm to MemphisGuy
quote:
C'mon, dude, you are better than that. If not, you should be. It's not understandable at all. You SHOULD no more understand that behavior than you should understand a Baptist or a Presby going into a mosque and taking a leak on whatever sort of altar they have. It's just not right, period. I suspect, though, that you already know this.
Muslims should never have been brought to the USA in the first place and it would be nice if we can deport them.
HOWEVER
Taking a leak in a mosque would be wrong as well. Not because you'd get tortured and killed cause the mussies would go postal and they aren't afraid of acting violent. But pissing on something others hold dear is wrong in principle. That's for victorious dogs not human beings.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:42 pm to Champagne
quote:I know what you're doing. You're trying to dox me or further claim that I don't belong to a truthful church because there aren't as many members as other denominations.
Foo, you are not telling us the whole truth. You are being intentionally misleading.
Why don't you finally address my comments about your logical fallacy? You've brought this up many times over the past few years and I keep correcting you, but you don't change your ways. Why is that?
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:43 pm to TrueTiger
quote:
Man breaks into St. Peter's Basilica
Looks like it was pretty accessible
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:44 pm to Champagne
quote:It's irrelevant. I could just as easily be a member of the PCA or OPC denominations and then you're 10,000 argument would have to shift. It doesn't speak to truth, so why don't you do that?
Foo, tell us the exact name of your sect so we can all understand you better.
Why are you hiding this from us here on Religion Talk?
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