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re: Man loses girlfriend in avalanche, then takes his own life

Posted on 10/11/17 at 4:40 pm to
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 4:40 pm to
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It was obviously an emotional response


That's all it was. I seriously doubt he believes what he said. What can you say when your child takes their life?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 4:42 pm to
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It's also apparent you've never been in such an agonizing and stressful situation in your life. Consider yourself blessed, and be less judgmental at how people cope with their personal nightmares.



I don't think it's wrong to examine the situation or judge it to discuss the motives/effects after the fact. That's the best way people can better understand what drives these actions.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 6:02 pm to


You're pathetic.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103906 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 6:20 pm to
If ever caught in an avalanche work your hand to your face and create a pocket then dig down under your chest to relieve the pressure so you can breathe. Then spit in your hand and feel which way it runs down so you know which way is up and start trying to dig out
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 6:38 pm to
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his father wrote on Facebook. “He chose to end his life. Myself and his mother Julie sorrowfully respect his decision.”





Damn, that's rough
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 6:38 pm to
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Then it's not so much a tragedy as it is just unfortunate they didn't respect warnings and now 2 people are dead.

If they were avalanche safety certified and know how to dig a stability pit and test snow layers - which I have no doubt they were - then they mitigated all the risk they could. If they didn't well then that's a shame. If you're not skiing at a resort the knife will eventually fall on you, more than once.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 6:42 pm to
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You obviously know nothing about mental illness. There was probably more to this than just his gf dying.


Well, if he was a real man he probably felt responsible for his girlfriend's death.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64704 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 6:45 pm to
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If they were avalanche safety certified and know how to dig a stability pit and test snow layers - which I have no doubt they were - then they mitigated all the risk they could. If they didn't well then that's a shame. If you're not skiing at a resort the knife will eventually fall on you, more than once.


Somehow I don't see them doing that. This guy clearly takes risks and this just seemed to be apart of his nature, so I guess it finally caught up to him and unfortunately his gf.

Was this area approved for skiers?
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:02 pm to
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Somehow I don't see them doing that. This guy clearly takes risks and this just seemed to be apart of his nature, so I guess it finally caught up to him and unfortunately his gf.

Was this area approved for skiers?
It doesn't work like that. Ski anywhere at your own risk and expense is the general rule. Based on the pitch and description, without looking it up, its very likely a popular place to backcountry ski around Big Sky. Six miles is a shite load of work to get there though.

Part of backcountry skiing ethos and etiquette is to know what you're doing, take the classes and get certified. He was a renown climber so my money is on him having an avalanche shovel on his back when he skied, his GF too.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52807 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:04 pm to
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Myself and his mother Julie sorrowfully respect his decision.”
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:12 pm to
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Doug Chabot, director of the Gallatin National Forest Avalanche Center, confirmed Wednesday morning that Perkins, a 23-year-old from Bozeman, was not wearing her beacon. The avalanche transceiver was turned off and in her backpack. It is unknown at this time if Kennedy was wearing an operational beacon, or for how long he searched for Perkins before giving up and walking out on his own.
Not a good indication of general avalanche safety and I'm likely wrong. Still a shame.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 7:13 pm
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
37026 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:31 pm to
Yeah, that's not good.

I was hoping they were being safe. frickkkkkkkk
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
37026 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:29 pm to
Can you provide a link?
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:41 pm to
Can you provide a link?

LINK

The north face and that pitch led to their demise. In Utah north facing slopes are OK usually until deep winter, but I'd guess its a lot colder in Big Sky, Montana. The more I read I get the impression they didn't know what they were doing, which is a travesty. The set up of heavy pack, with newer light snow would have set off alarms on the local avalanche advisory.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 9:46 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:15 pm to
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If they were avalanche safety certified and know how to dig a stability pit and test snow layers - which I have no doubt they were - then they mitigated all the risk they could. If they didn't well then that's a shame. If you're not skiing at a resort the knife will eventually fall on you, more than once.


If they didn't have avalanche locator beacons they didn't totally mitigate all the risk they could, it would have given him some chance of locating her.

LINK

Edit,just saw the post above about not having beacons.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 11:17 pm
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20668 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 7:06 am to
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Man loses girlfriend in avalanche, then takes his own life


Nature did him a solid and this is how he repays it? Damn.
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