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Man goes on 10 min racial rant in NYC, gets charged with hate crime, harrassing charges

Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:07 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20895 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:07 am
quote:

The LIRR rider caught on video unleashing a profane and racist rant was charged with a hate crime Wednesday and could end up behind bars for the vile tongue-lashing, officials said Wednesday.

Queens DA Richard Brown charged Edward Ruggerio, 58, with menacing as a hate crime for his verbal attack on a fellow passenger whome he threatened physical assault. Ruggerio will also face a count of second-degree aggravated harassment — crimes punishable by up to a year in jail and $1,000 fine.


The article doesnt mention it, but I am pretty sure menacing is a felony here.

Hate crime is a stretch here IMHO.

Youtube video

NY Daily News

Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:08 am to
"random person sucks"

I'm surprised they didn't try to label him a trump voter or anything.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:10 am to
I cannot see Robert Loggia yelling, but I hear him.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17170 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:15 am to
quote:

"random person sucks"

I'm surprised they didn't try to label him a trump voter or anything.


Come to think of it...

Remember those train attackers out West about a year ago? Ya know, the ones falsely attributed to being Trump supporters yet one documented as insane and the other pictured at ANTIFA or Hillary stuff? Been total silence nationally on the pursuit of their crimes through the justice system.

They went "Poof" once no ties to the Right existed.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
58890 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:17 am to
Hate crime? Man, I really cannot stand the reasoning of northeast liberal pussies and their hate crime bullshite. There was a heated out of control argument and people said mean shite to one another. It’s what happens when you have arguments. But now it’s a hate crime?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:21 am to
She called him a stupid white boy where is her arrest?
Posted by Summer of George
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
5995 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:23 am to
Hate crimes are fricking stupid and it’s sad that liberal pussies have normalized it in this country.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Hate crimes are fricking stupid


No the stupid part is when it gets labeled a hate crime just because it has a white aggressor and a black victim.

It's stupid when it isn't a hate crime when a white man gets beaten in a black neighborhood for "being on the wrong neighborhood."
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
8636 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:25 am to
quote:

he threatened physical assault.

So that's the crime. Charge him with what follows that,
quote:

second-degree aggravated harassment
. As South Park said, "If a man kills another man because that other man was sleeping with his wife, is that not a hate crime?" If someone is threatening violence, that's assault. Hate crime laws are ridiculous and insulting.

After watching the clip, I didn't even see threats. But I'll even assume as much for these purposes.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:25 am to
quote:

I cannot see Robert Loggia yelling, but I hear him


No kidding.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20129 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:27 am to
Saying words is a crime? What about free speech?
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17919 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:45 am to
quote:

Remember those train attackers out West about a year ago? Ya know, the ones falsely attributed to being Trump supporters yet one documented as insane and the other pictured at ANTIFA or Hillary stuff? Been total silence nationally on the pursuit of their crimes through the justice system.

They went "Poof" once no ties to the Right existed.

Trial starts in 13 months... impossible to keep public interest that long today.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20895 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:55 am to
quote:

Saying words is a crime? What about free speech?


I could understand arresting him after he physically threatened someone, but yelling racial slurs is not threatening, as uncouth it may be.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110866 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:13 am to
Is there more to what he said than the YT video in the OP?

I didn't hear any threats(maybe i missed it as every other second was beeped out), and from that video, it seemed to show 2 people doing the same exact thing back and forth.
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 10:14 am
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
13350 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:30 am to
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whom he threatened physical assault


It was a crime once he threatened him.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20503 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:47 am to
quote:

I'm surprised they didn't try to label him a trump voter or anything.


trump voter.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:49 am to
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gets charged with hate crime

Good luck with that
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20895 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:54 am to
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It was a crime once he threatened him.

Agreed.

My problem is not with him being charged with harrassment but a hate crime.
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