re: Man Demonstrates A Big Flaw In 911's Jet Fuel Argument

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in the previous thread you wanted to kick my arse



WTF are you talking about?

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My sincerest apologies. That comment was meant for dukke.

All you attackers are starting to run together.

"Experts"

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"Experts"

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Those who work in the field. Make a living at it.

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The biggest flaw in all government conspiracies is the ineptitude of our government itself.

Ever met a federal employee at the top of his game? Ever met anyone who works for a federal agency who could hack it in the private sector? Ever seen a federal agency you would really want to work for?

Those that consider our government is efficient and smart enough to conceive, plan, and execute these types of plots obviously don't have much experience dealing with government employees.

Now that's not to say they aren't good at misinformation and propoganda. However I think that most of that is CYA to cover up the inefficiencies of the machine itself.
I couldn't agree more and I'm curious as to why you would direct that comment to me.

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Because you sure seem to promote the "truther" or "conspiracy" side of this event.

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Yes, you do believe the crazy conspiracy theory behind 9/11. That's the point.



Yeah, I believe some planes hit buildings, people died.

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Yeah, I too believe people died. In the bigger picture does it really matter the method with which they were killed? Does one make them less dead than the other?

I wish we would stop jerking off on Muslims and try to find the people who did this. I believe we owe that to the victims.

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I have met many clueless engineers and pilots. You can find idiots in any group of brilliant people.

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Oh, I agree. That's why it's difficult to believe anything anyone says concerning 9/11. Even eyewitness testimony can be proven wrong.

So who do you believe?

I was an ironworker.

You don't have to get steel that hot to bend it. Around 1100-1200 it will bend with not much effort.

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Oh ok, so that's why the building collapsed vertically, demolition style. Because the steel was weak and therefore bent over and the building fell....wait..

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You fricking moron. They built the building with it's destruction directly in mind. It was designed to fall vertically if it's structure was compromised. And you know what a skyscraper is mostly made of? It's air. Air fills 90% of it. So yeah, it basically is in free fall with all the weight on top of it.

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I wish we would stop jerking off on Muslims and try to find the people who did this. I believe we owe that to the victims.

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This is where you lose many people, including myself. If you're suggesting some covert, independent, group rigged the buildings to blow then you're so far down the rabbit hole you can't be helped.

Attackers identities are known. How they were trained and supported along the way is known. Organization and hierarchy above them are known and proven.

Now, our government won't do a good job of showing some of the money trail leads back to Saudi Arabia but that is another issue entirely separate from who caused the attack. They also won't advertise that at one time we supported OBL as he was the enemy of our enemy.

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Oh ok, so that's why the building collapsed vertically, demolition style. Because the steel was weak and therefore bent over and the building fell....wait..



You fricking moron. They built the building with it's destruction directly in mind. It was designed to fall vertically if it's structure was compromised. And you know what a skyscraper is mostly made of? It's air. Air fills 90% of it. So yeah, it basically is in free fall with all the weight on top of it.

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Why do demolition companies waste so much time and expense to wire buildings if they can just set them on fire and watch them burn virtually into their own footprint?