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re: Male Student is Possibly Raped; Gets Expelled for Sexual Assaut
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:22 pm to VOLhalla
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:22 pm to VOLhalla
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But I'm not going to blame someone for siding with her when he can't even say he didn't do it.
The bottom line is the board found him guilty based on evidence that wouldn't hold up in a court of law. They aren't expelling him for cheating or plagiarism, they're expelling him for sexual assault based on a flimsy case. Those accusations don't carry the same weight. What they're doing to this guy, and the girl to some extent, is borderline criminal.
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:23 pm to VOLhalla
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I don't know this girl, maybe she likes to frick the pain away. Maybe she didn't even consider herself raped till she sobered up
Let me get this straight, she gives some guy head who was so drunk he was blacking out and couldn't remember what happened for however long. Then she kicks him out. Then she sends texts and trys to get other dude over. Dude arrives over there. Dude refuses to have sex with her for two hours. Seems to me we are talking a 3-4 hour window. Then she finally gets the dick she worked so hard for. Now after what, about 5 hours she is finally sober enough to decide the first dude raped her? And the "rape" caused her to literally beg for some dick for hours?
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she was pissed that he blew too fast
Are you male or female? Have you ever had sex before? Have you ever had sex after drinking a lot?
Let me help educate you:
1. If you are a guy and blackout drunk, the chances of you being able to achieve and maintain an erection are not very good at all.
2. If you are able to achieve and maintain an erection, the last thing that happens is blowing your load quick. That can take hours and probably isn't even going to happen at all if you are that drunk.
The VASTLY more likely scenario, is that she tried to suck the dude for a while and he couldn't even get or keep a hard on as he barely even knew where he was. She got frustrated, felt guilty, kicked him out, but still wanted dick. This is like 10,000x more likely considering her actions after and the fact she begged for 2 hours to get it from someone who didn't even want to give it to her in the first place.
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:23 pm to VOLhalla
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What do you think about her throwing his clothes, phone, etc in to the hallway and locking him out of the room immediately after he finished?
Was it not her roommate's boyfriend? Seems like throwing all his shite out in the hall would be a good way to hide from her roommate the fact she just sucked off her boyfriend, no?
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:24 pm to VOLhalla
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The problem with this guy's situation is that he didn't even attempt to deny it happened. That's what makes it hard to not side with the girl.
Doesn't matter. She took advantage of him while he was in and altered state of mind. He was unable to give legal consent to her sexual advances.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:27 pm to VOLhalla
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The problem with this guy's situation is that he didn't even attempt to deny it happened. That's what makes it hard to not side with the girl.
That's like me blindfolding and gagging you, then letting you testify at your defense. "See, he didn't say anything in his defense. Guilty."
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:29 pm to upgrayedd
Serious question:
.How many other types of violent crime are handled strictly by a college judiciary board?
Assault? Battery? Armed robbery?
.How many other types of violent crime are handled strictly by a college judiciary board?
Assault? Battery? Armed robbery?
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:29 pm to upgrayedd
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:31 pm to VOLhalla
He didn't deny it because he was blackout drunk and couldn't remember anything from that night. His story has always been consistent, which was noted by the investigator, et al. If he tried to deny it, he'd be painted a liar and his credibility hurt. In this situation, I don't remember because i was black out drunk is (should be) a valid explanation.
On top of that, Amherst's empowering victims policy/procedures stacked everything against Doe. She, as the accuser, no longer had the burden of showing she was raped. Rather, even though he was incapacitated, he (without counsel) must no unequivocally show it didn't happen for him to not be expelled. That doesn't even address the litany of other procedural issues with this situation. Why should her story stand now when it has been shown that she lied to investigator and panel and witheld evidence.
On top of that, Amherst's empowering victims policy/procedures stacked everything against Doe. She, as the accuser, no longer had the burden of showing she was raped. Rather, even though he was incapacitated, he (without counsel) must no unequivocally show it didn't happen for him to not be expelled. That doesn't even address the litany of other procedural issues with this situation. Why should her story stand now when it has been shown that she lied to investigator and panel and witheld evidence.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:33 pm to VOLhalla
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The problem with this guy's situation is that he didn't even attempt to deny it happened. That's what makes it hard to not side with the girl.
So you're more in the "guilty until proven innocent" camp then?
You do realize when someone is accused of a crime it's not up to them to deny anything, right? The burden of proof is on their accuser to prove they did it.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
Colleges are a haven for unconstitutional policies and anti-equality practices. Its disgusting.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:36 pm to VOLhalla
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If the guy said no, tried to push her away, and she pushes his head into her crotch, then yeah. That's rape
I am so happy I am not in college anymore. This bullshite right here will make most smart college guys date either girls from another school, college grads, or girls not in college.
This story should be posted in every frat house. Get sexually assaulted, get booted off campus.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:37 pm to LesMiles BFF
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Serious question:
.How many other types of violent crime are handled strictly by a college judiciary board?
Assault? Battery? Armed robbery?
I don't know what crimes they handle, but if I found out that my child went to the school saying she was raped and they encouraged her to stay away from the police and have it handled internally, you can believe heads would roll.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:39 pm to upgrayedd
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but if I found out that my child went to the school saying she was raped and they encouraged her to stay away from the police and have it handled internally, you can believe heads would roll.
I do have a daughter and I feel the same way.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:55 pm to VOLhalla
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VOLhalla
I mean, you do believe that she raped the guy, right?
Posted on 7/21/15 at 5:01 pm to VOLhalla
So all I ever have to do to get away with rape according to the law of volholla is knock the woman out before I rape her. Because I can go to court and say I didn't do it, and she won't be able to say I did because she was knocked out. Bulletproof defense from Volholla, Esq
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 7/21/15 at 5:04 pm to lsupride87
Better yet, just kill your victims because then they won't be able to testify in court. So easy 
Posted on 7/21/15 at 5:08 pm to lsupride87
The real crime here is that SFP has left a misspelled word in the OP for 196 posts.
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