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Major WWII shipwreck discovered: Japanese battleship sunk by US found
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:42 pm
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One of the first Japanese battleship to be sunk by U.S. forces during World War II has been discovered in the Solomon Islands by a research organization set up by the late billionaire Paul Allen. Imperial Japanese Navy ship Hiei, which sank on Nov. 14, 1942, was spotted on the seabed by experts from the research vessel RV Petrel.
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“HIEI was crippled by a shell from the USS San Francisco on the 13th which disabled the steering gear,” explained RV Petrel, in a Facebook post. “For the next 24 hours it was attacked by multiple sorties of torpedo, dive and B-17 bombers. Hiei sank sometime in the evening with a loss of 188 of her crew.”
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The battleship was found lying upside down on the seabed northwest of Savo Island, according to the RV Petrel team. Eerie images posted to Facebook show Hiei’s 5-inch guns and intact glass portholes in the ship's barnacle-encrusted hull. RV Petrel also posted sonar images of the battleship and her debris field on the seafloor.
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This post was edited on 2/8/19 at 12:53 pm
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Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:45 pm to Cump11b
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set up by the late billionaire Paul Allen
May he rest in peace.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:47 pm to Cump11b
Outstanding work, old sport!
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:49 pm to Cump11b
I wonder if there are any remaining crew veterans.
A small percentage of the crew was lost, but that was early in the war. I'm sure those suffered a heavy toll for the rest of the war. And, that was almost 80 years ago.
A small percentage of the crew was lost, but that was early in the war. I'm sure those suffered a heavy toll for the rest of the war. And, that was almost 80 years ago.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:56 pm to Cump11b
They started it.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:56 pm to Cump11b
I always thought the IJN's battleships from this period looked very top-heavy with those massive pagoda-style superstructures.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:57 pm to Cump11b
Always liked the pagoda like superstructures of Japanese battleships.
Battleship Yamato: The largest battleship ever built.
Battleship Yamato: The largest battleship ever built.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:07 pm to Amadeo
After the war they tested the armor of Yamato's never-finished sister ship against the Iowa's 16 inch guns. The Iowa's AP ammo had nearly as much penetrating power as Yamato's's 18 inch shells and it could fire 3 salvo's per minute vs Yamato's two. The Iowa class was also faster and could fire accurately while maneuvering at full speed, which the Yamato couldn't do.
Of course both were already obsolete when they were built.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:11 pm to Amadeo
Yamato is also the largest battleship on the ocean floor.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:13 pm to Cump11b
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research vessel RV Petrel
Paul Allen still doing work even after death. That same ship also found the USS Indianapolis a couple of years ago.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:22 pm to Cump11b
As big as the ocean is, it would be creepy as hell finding an old ship at the bottom of the ocean. Especially a ship like the titanic.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:59 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 2/8/19 at 2:13 pm to Jim Rockford
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Of course both were already obsolete when they were built.
Why would the Iowa have been obsolete?
Unless you are claiming every surface ship was obsolete in 1942?
The fact is the Iowa was finally decommissioned in 1990.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 2:22 pm to CarrolltonTiger
Planes could sink battleships.
Battleships were made for surface warfare.
When aerial bombardment was created, battleships were vulnerable and obsolete.
Battleships were made for surface warfare.
When aerial bombardment was created, battleships were vulnerable and obsolete.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 2:25 pm to Cump11b
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5-inch guns
If I had a nickel for everytime I've said that...
Posted on 2/8/19 at 2:25 pm to ItTakesAThief
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Planes could sink battleships.
Planes can sink all ships.
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Battleships were made for surface warfare.
So are cruisers, destroyers, frigates, etc. And Battleships continued to play a role in surface bombardment after 1942 and the Iowa was recommissioned in the 1980's. So much for being obsolete.
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When aerial bombardment was created, battleships were vulnerable and obsolete.
Not if they have air cover, and we had many carriers to protect as well as attack.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 2:44 pm to ItTakesAThief
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Planes could sink battleships.
Battleships were made for surface warfare.
When aerial bombardment was created, battleships were vulnerable and obsolete.
Then its a great thing we decommissioned all our carriers.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 2:53 pm to CarrolltonTiger
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Why would the Iowa have been obsolete?
Because aircraft were pennies on the dollar. The aircraft carrier was the dominant capital ship by the mid-30s but the old admirals of all navies wouldn't accept that.
Now, just because something is obsolete doesn't mean it is ineffective. Just obsolete. (ETA: For example, in 2019, revolvers are obsolete. They are not ineffective.)
Let me ask you this - it's 1942 and you get to pick - Japan or the United States. Next, you get to pick - 5 CV type carrier groups (but ZERO battleships) or 8 battleship groups (but ZERO CVs) and you have to control the Pacific theater in 36 months.
Go.
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Posted on 2/8/19 at 2:56 pm to Indefatigable
It looks like this would make them easily capsize once the hull in punctured.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 2:56 pm to Ace Midnight
True.
Now which is more suited to softening up invasion sites?
Now which is more suited to softening up invasion sites?
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