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re: Major overreaction by the government
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:19 am to Mo Jeaux
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:19 am to Mo Jeaux
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How do you define "necessary"?
I’m not going to go through every step taken in a hospital when it comes to dealing with infectious or potential infectious patients. But 0 people on this board would disagree with any of them. They are all common sense steps.
Or are you asking me as it relates to outside of a healthcare setting? If so, that’s not really my arena. But there are some overlaps.
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:21 am to Y.A. Tittle
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didn’t say that, but if that’s all this is, I would argue IN THIS INSTANCE it seems it maybe would be. I REALLY HOPE there is more to this than that.
Here in America we have to worry about being sued. Doctors and healthcare entities are at the top of that list. Covering your arse is generally a good thing, considering it requires transparency and communication.
Patient safety and avoiding litigation are synonymous
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 8:22 am
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:22 am to cas4t
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It’s just a CYA, in the event of the worst case scenario
why not martial law in the areas affected?
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:24 am to cas4t
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Here in America we have to worry about being sued. Doctors and healthcare entities are at the top of that list. Covering your arse is generally a good thing, considering it requires transparency and communication.
Patient safety and avoiding litigation are synonymous
what are the lawsuit threats based in, exactly?
we just shut down the fricking country for a month. you don't think there are less expensive ways to indemnify doctors?
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:24 am to abitabrewed4LSU
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Yep. People are dying.
Yep, people die everyday from a variety of things.
Solid post
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:26 am to cas4t
Nah. They might not be virologists but They all know more about it than the majority of people on here spreading doom and gloom. When they get worried I'll get worried.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:27 am to cas4t
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Or are you asking me as it relates to outside of a healthcare setting? If so, that’s not really my arena. But there are some overlaps.
I thought we were talking about the drastic governmental and societal actions being taken. I don't really care about what internal processes hospitals take with respect to infectious or potentially infectious patients.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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why not martial law in the areas affected?
That would certainly....flatten the curve
I’m not arguing for or against what the government has done. I don’t trust government to do anything except make mistakes.
My initial post was responding to someone who referred to “folks on the front line think this is an overreaction” and then mentioned a bunch of people who didn’t go to medical school, including a drug rep.
In my line of work I get a peek behind the curtain for those that make some big decisions within these systems, and they are concerned.
That’s all I’m saying. Their #1 concern is being overwhelmed and not having the supplies to manage the outbreak.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:30 am to cas4t
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My initial post was responding to someone who referred to “folks on the front line think this is an overreaction”
But to what do you think they were referring when they mentioned "overreaction"? Certainly not hospitals trying to find more ventilators.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:32 am to Mo Jeaux
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I thought we were talking about the drastic governmental and societal actions being taken
These are inherently related. The drastic governmental and societal actions being taken because our healthcare system isn’t really equipped to manage this thing if it gets worse.
But I get what you’re saying, 100%. It’s just important to see the big picture imo
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:35 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I disagree. The ambulance rider is hands on with it as well and the sales guy is involved with selling test kit stuff. When the paramedic tells me it's time to panic I will panic.
Is this a joke? You’re waiting on someone that took 3 months of fricking classes to be in an ambulance over the people that have dedicated their entire existence to studying infectious diseases? Fyi, these cases aren’t coming in via ambulance.
The bigger lie is the pharm sales bit. No pill pushing salesmen is selling test kit supplies. There are two companies producing kits under an emergency declaration by the FDA. If you know someone selling test kit anything they’re breaking the fricking law.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:36 am to Mo Jeaux
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But to what do you think they were referring when they mentioned "overreaction"? Certainly not hospitals trying to find more ventilators.
Probably the governmental actions being taken. Which again, are being taken so as not to overwhelm our fairly fragile healthcare system. There is already a shortage of providers in this country, particularly in rural America. The entire point of these drastic measures is to ensure hospitals don’t have to make tough decisions as to who gets care and who doesn’t.
I’ll give an example. I have 2 health systems I work with that have already halted elective surgeries due to the outbreak, because they have COVID patients at multiple locations that came through the ER. That’s a problem. Elective surgeries are still pretty damn important. That’s a minor example too
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:37 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 9:05 am
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:39 am to lsut2005
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frick China.
You sir are an a-hole. Grow up.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 8:40 am
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:40 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Nah. They might not be virologists but They all know more about it than the majority of people on here spreading doom and gloom. When they get worried I'll get worried.
Just stop with the bullshite. Tell your friends to come visit the fricking VA in Nola for an hour and let’s see how they feel about it. This is very real and it’s still in its infancy in the US.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:42 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Nah. They might not be virologists but They all know more about it than the majority of people on here spreading doom and gloom. When they get worried I'll get worried.
Ok man. By all means, listen to your local EMT and pharma sales rep for all things global pandemic. That makes total sense
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 8:43 am
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:44 am to MightyYat
Yea it's all a joke. Yall have fun freaking the frick out over a cold and doing it every time we get a new flavor of flu every 5 years
This thing isnt even a pimple on influenzas arse. I'm sticking to the guidance of people I personally trust who know their shite.
This thing isnt even a pimple on influenzas arse. I'm sticking to the guidance of people I personally trust who know their shite.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:47 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Yea it's all a joke. Yall have fun freaking the frick out over a cold and doing it every time we get a new flavor of flu every 5 years
This thing isnt even a pimple on influenzas arse. I'm sticking to the guidance of people I personally trust who know their shite.
An ER nurse
EMT
Sales rep claiming to sell test kits
Christ........
eta: I have to ask, what city does the nurse and emt work in? And what exactly is the sales guy selling?
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 8:48 am
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:48 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I'm sticking to the guidance of people I personally trust who know their shite.
You can’t fix stupid. Do you, buddy.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:35 am to cas4t
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What do they do on these front lines? Because I do as well. I also work in risk management and insurance within the healthcare field and let me tell you
Found the “nonessential” personell
Do they let y’all take the beans home to count?
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