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re: LSU unenrolling un-vaxxed, partial refund

Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:01 am to
Posted by IamPatman
In The Head Of My Enemies
Member since Nov 2019
484 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:01 am to
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Vote for liberals, get liberalism.

Nope, but wear your tinfoil hats too tight and there will be consequences.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
78750 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:03 am to
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Liberals are not totalitarian pricks. Progressives are.


Not anymore. Liberals will vote the dem candidate no matter what. Sorry but you latched yourself to progressives and there is no going back.

You literally voted for a white liberal because voting for a black republican is deemed racist and setting back equality in this country.

That’s liberal logic, to actually be racist towards a black man in the name of the Democratic Party. It’s a fricking cult.


Loos like we have one liberal that would egg a black man running for governor, I guess covid made it so y’all could go out in your hoods again.
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 8:07 am
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
15129 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:06 am to
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The law school started August 17


And they still haven’t asked? Lol. I waited til they threatened me. I turned it in on the 8th. I oughta be good for a while lol
Posted by kisatchie53
Member since Jul 2011
1964 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:06 am to
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You literally voted for a white liberal because voting for a black republican is deemed racist and setting back equality in this country.


And then there are posters like mmmmmbeer who hate those black politicians simply because of the color of their skin, it’s awful
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
15129 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:07 am to
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Nope, but wear your tinfoil hats too tight and there will be consequences.


Oh FFS, you ruhtards can’t think further than your arse
Posted by DaTruth7
Member since Apr 2020
3901 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:22 am to
Yep, a broke arse school in a broke arse state should not be wasting money on this dumb crap. This monitoring will fail and money will be wasted because LSU and LA are worthless right now
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25102 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:40 am to
Any student that gets unenrolled needs to sue. You cannot receive the fda approved vax here in Louisiana yet.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:45 am to
Asking would require them to monitor which students submitted negative tests, positive tests, or proof of vaccine and the date thereof and to differentiate between those 40,000 individuals and then to set up a tickler system for the alleged 10,000 people who haven’t been vaxed so that they receive notice every 30 days.

This would mean that someone would be required to individually inform 300+ students on a daily basis to submit a negative test. Does that sound like something Tate & Co. are capable of doing?
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:28 am to
Ill say this again for the millionth time here because nobody seems to get it or cares to know.

In the state of Louisiana, it is 100% verifiably illegal, per state law, for any educational institution, whether public or private, of any grade level, including universities, and including daycares, to deny enrollment for lack of proof of immunization.

What your school chooses to tell you about that is completely irrelevant. Internal school policy doesn't Trump state law.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
52943 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:30 am to
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deny enrollment for lack of proof of immunization.

Places get away with this because no one reads anything
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:31 am to
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This is a very misleading thread title. They aren’t disenrolling students simply for being unvaccinated. They are disenrolling: 1) vaccinated students who did not submit proof of vaccination and 2) unvaccinated students who didn’t take 30 seconds to opt out


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Don’t have a problem with it



But see, you should have a problem with it if you spent more than 30 seconds thinking about it. The reason is, this is very clearly in place to try to remove as many unvaccinated students or pressure unvaccinated students to get vaccinated, as possible. If remaining unvaccinated and staying enrolled in LSU can be accomplished with something as simple as filling out a form, then why have the form at all? Why have this policy in place that all? What exactly is the point?
Posted by deathvalleyfreak43
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13884 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:32 am to
Lol but NBA players and congressmen get paid a premium and don’t need to be vaxxed.. honk honk
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:39 am to
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To enroll at any university you have to provide your vaccination records—

This will be the norm



Again, that is incorrect.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:45 am to
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You submit proof of either a negative or positive test, then you click a few buttons to tell the university to go f*ck themselves because you're not getting the vaccine.

If you haven't done this after a month, it's your own fault



You shouldn't be required to submit to a fricking medical examination or test to enroll at an educational institution. That's an absurd undue burden and tons of privacy concerns. There's no justifiable correlation that can be drawn between your medical status and providing an education. If you were trying out for a sports team or to be a frontline grunt in the military, I would understand.

They especially lose credibility due to the fact that they're not requiring people that are vaccinated to get tested. Every study released so far has proven that covid-19 vaccinated people just as readily spread the virus as the unvaccinated and some studies show even more so.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:49 am to
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Places get away with this because no one reads anything



It's worse than that. Even the educational institutions don't know what their legal responsibilities are. I was set to enroll my child in an expensive private Montessori School in St Tammany Parish before we ran into the immunization issue. I wrote them a letter quoting the state law and they consulted with their attorney. They had absolutely no clue and ended up apologizing and backing down on it and agreeing to accept her. At that point I was concerned about retribution so I ended up not sending her there.

Their ignorance cost them thousands of dollars.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
33873 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:52 am to
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Even the educational institutions don't know what their legal responsibilities are


Nobody does, because we are not lawyers or health professionals.

It as stupid as asking a minimum wage employee or waiter to enforce a mask mandate.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31085 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:01 pm to
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In fact, they're probably tossing out several vaccinated people who failed to file proof of vaccination. It's less to do with the shot and more to do with them missing a deadline.
Tossing out a lot of paying students. Will LSU be refunding tuition & fees already paid for Fall semester?
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
8763 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:24 pm to
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There's no justifiable correlation that can be drawn between your medical status and providing an education.


I don't get this argument. If you have children in public K-12 school, you have to turn over their vaccination records or they aren't allowed to attend. This was true pre-COVID, and it'll remain true post-COVID.

I can't speak to what the requirements were at LSU pre-COVID but I would be absolutely SHOCKED if they didn't require vaccination records. In fact, I wonder if vaccination records are part of a high school transcript which gets sent along to colleges and universities?

Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25523 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:30 pm to
I think it can be argued that this is not a vaccine and shouldn’t be on the list of tjose required. It is more akin to the flu shot
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
8763 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:41 pm to
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I think it can be argued that this is not a vaccine and shouldn’t be on the list of tjose required. It is more akin to the flu shot


They're both vaccines for highly communicable viruses.

If you (or anyone) feels that COVID, which has killed like 700K Americans in a year and a half, is on par with a flu virus that, in a bad year, kills 10% of that amount, well, sure.

But do you really think any public health official is going to come out and say that a virus that's 1000% more deadly than the flu should be treated the same as the flu? Of course they would never do that.

This idea that LSU, or any corporation, school, or government entity, asking for proof of vaccination or proof of negative testing is an unfair abuse of power is just mind-numbingly ignorant and is WHOLLY driven by social provocateurs getting rich as frick via clicks and views by spouting conspiratorial nonsense.
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