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re: Lovable Pit Bulls at it again.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:55 pm to saint tiger225
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:55 pm to saint tiger225
quote:
I don't think vaccines cause autism and I believe smoking causes cancer.
And I know where you're taking this.
Just because some people smoke their whole lives and don't get cancer, doesn't mean smoking can't lead to it.
Exactly. So what you're telling me is that you see the correlation between smoking and cancer, because of what you see and read, and the mountain of evidence proving the causation.
Your point about "not everyone who smokes will get cancer" is akin to what we're saying that "not every pit will attack a human". But if a dog attack happens, the overwhelming likelihood is that it's going to be a pit bull, a point also proven by a mountain of evidence.
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:57 pm to LSUgirl4
quote:Exactly my point.
blame the people or person.
if my dog attacked because of my lack of dog owning skills, i'd expect to be held responsible.
It's the dogs that have shitty owners who are the ones you hear about.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:57 pm to LSUgirl4
quote:
if my dog attacked because of my lack of dog owning skills,
It may offer you some comfort in knowing that your dog owning skills likely have nothing to do with triggering the dog to attack.
And I don't entirely blame the dog either...because that's just the way that animal is.
To the earlier point, if people commonly held mountain lions as pets, and they started mauling people I wouldn't blame the lion. I'd blame the idiot that thought they were not a dangerous animal.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:57 pm to saint tiger225
quote:
You're Just being ignorant now.
By repeating what she said? Ya got me.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:58 pm to Chucktown_Badger
quote:You realize other dogs attack more than pits? It's just not reported bc they're usually little superficial scratches and shite.
But if a dog attack happens, the overwhelming likelihood is that it's going to be a pit bull, a point also proven by a mountain of evidence.
Doesn't excuse that pitbulls are more harmful when they attack, just saying.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:59 pm to Darth_Vader
I will pose this question again....
What purpose does this breed accomplish that keeps us from neutering and spaying it onto extinction?
If this was a product it would be recalled and discontinued.
No reason to keep breeding a breed that is 7 times more likely to be involved in a fatal attack than any other breed.
What purpose does this breed accomplish that keeps us from neutering and spaying it onto extinction?
If this was a product it would be recalled and discontinued.
No reason to keep breeding a breed that is 7 times more likely to be involved in a fatal attack than any other breed.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:00 pm to saint tiger225
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It's the dogs that have shitty owners who are the ones you hear about.
So in the insane number of attacks/maulings/killings involving pit bulls, you guys know the owners were terrible how exactly?
I've missed that in many of the recent cases...this one included. And with the last one where the 20 something year old woman was torn apart by her two pit bulls (who were also "super cute and nice" according to her friends).
And I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but are you claiming that shitty people ONLY own pit bulls? If so, I'd be curious to see the data to support that.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:00 pm to saint tiger225
quote:
You realize other dogs attack more than pits? It's just not reported bc they're usually little superficial scratches and shite.
So if there is no data on this, how can you confidently claim it?
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:01 pm to saint tiger225
quote:
You realize other dogs attack more than pits? It's just not reported bc they're usually little superficial scratches and shite.
Doesn't excuse that pitbulls are more harmful when they attack, just saying.
I'm assuming he meant "kills or maims" when he said "attacks" which is what people care about, which is why we are having this discussion.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:01 pm to theenemy
They're actually very smart and very lovable dogs. But none of y'all would know bc y'all only go by articles y'all read that are put out when they attack.
Never mind the reasons that make them good dogs, it doesn't fit y'alls narrative.
Never mind the reasons that make them good dogs, it doesn't fit y'alls narrative.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:02 pm to SUB
That's why I put my last sentence there.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:02 pm to saint tiger225
quote:
They're actually very smart and very lovable dogs.
Until one eats your face off
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:03 pm to saint tiger225
quote:
It's just not reported bc they're usually little superficial scratches and shite.
That really doesn’t help your case.
The owner of the dog in the story this thread was created about felt exactly about pit-bulls as you do right up until the time he had to stab the dog to death.
I suspect he probably won’t own another pit-bull.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:03 pm to SUB
Would you guys use a reputable site? Dogbites.org is the infowars of dog data.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:04 pm to saint tiger225
quote:
Never mind the reasons that make them good dogs, it doesn't fit y'alls narrative
No amount of “reasons” can overcome the fact that they on a regular basis kill and seriously injure people.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:04 pm to Chucktown_Badger
There's plenty of data on it, but, as I said, it doesn't fit y'alls narrative so y'all don't seek it...here, take a look...
Dog bite statistics
Dog bite statistics
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:04 pm to saint tiger225
quote:
They're actually very smart and very lovable dogs. But none of y'all would know bc y'all only go by articles y'all read that are put out when they attack.
There are plenty other breeds that are smart and lovable That you can own. The risk does not outweigh the reward.
Again, 7 times more likely to be involved in a fatal attack....the breed should be discontinued for public safety.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:05 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:On a regular basis.
they on a regular basis kill and seriously injure people.
You're really overreacting now.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:08 pm to saint tiger225
For those not wanting to click the link....
quote:
Dog Bite Statistics
Approximately 4.5 million dog bites occur each yearDogs that bite the most:
Chihuahua
Bulldog
Pit Bull
German Shepherd
Australian Shepherd
Lhasa
ApsoJack
Russell Terrier
Cocker Spaniel
Bull Terrier
Pekingese
Papillion
In 2016, there were an estimated 78 million dogs in the U.S.80% of dog bites cause no injury at all or only minor injuries that do not require medial attention
Dog bites sustained by children have been decreasing in the past decade30+ breeds of dogs and mixes are incorrectly identified as “pit bulls”* in dog bite incidents, attributing the pit bull with an unfair and overstated number of incidents (*pit bull is not technically a dog breed; breeds that are commonly referred to as pit bulls in the U.S. are American Staffordshire Terrier, American Pit Bull Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, and American Bully)You have a 1 in 112,400 chance of dying from a dog bite or strike
You are at more risk of dying from:Cataclysmic storm: 1 in 66,335
Contact with hornets, wasps and bees: 1 in 63,225
Air and space transport incidents: 1 in 9,821
Firearm discharge: 1 in 6,905
Choking from inhalation and ingestion of food: 1 in 3,461
Heart disease and cancer: 1 in 7
Most dog bites involve dogs who are not spayed or neutered
Fatal Dog Attacks states that 25% of fatal attacks were inflicted by chained dogs of many different breeds
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:09 pm to saint tiger225
quote:
It's the dogs that have shitty owners who are the ones you hear about.
Did you read this article? Not only did the owner say the dog had never been aggressive before but the neighbor said what a great dog it seemed to be. There is no evidence to say he was a shitty dog owner.
But there is evidence to make the claim he was a shitty parent.
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