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Louisiana's Disappearing Coast

Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:08 pm
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:08 pm
Fascinating read about the history and present state of the Mississippi River and south Louisiana: LINK

Probably TL;DR for most, but a very good read for those interested.

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Since the days of Huey Long, Louisiana has shrunk by more than two thousand square miles. Every hour and a half, Louisiana sheds another football field’s worth of land.

A variety of factors are driving the “land-loss crisis,” as it’s come to be called. But the essential one is a marvel of engineering. Thousands of miles of levees, flood walls, and revetments have been erected to manage the Mississippi. This vast system, built to keep southern Louisiana dry, is the very reason the region is disintegrating.

But if control is the problem it must also be the solution. And so a huge new public-works project is getting under way—this one aimed not at flood control so much as at controlled flooding. Ten pharaonic structures are planned. The furthest along of these is slated for Plaquemines Parish. It will feature enough concrete and riprap to pave Greenwich Village and, when operating at full capacity, will, by flow, be the twelfth-largest river in the country.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

Every hour and a half, Louisiana sheds another football field’s worth of land.


Someone actually did the math on this lie and proved that - by these numbers - LA would disappear totally in just a few years.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45189 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:16 pm to
Levee system fricked it all up for good.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99034 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:16 pm to
Fake news
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
9663 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:17 pm to
You can not replicate the Mississippi River over the geologic time scale necessary to rebuild the coast with a “ diversion “ project. Translation. They ain’t got enough time. It’s over,it’s gone.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45503 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:18 pm to
For each bit of coast that disappears isn’t new coast created?
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 8:22 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79742 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:20 pm to
Isn't louisiana gaining coast over the last decade?
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45189 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:21 pm to
Definitely not. It’s all washing out into the deep gulf instead of replenishing the marshlands
Posted by JimmyMcGoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
625 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:24 pm to
And with every disappearing football field of coast my property value goes up. Once the NorthShore turns into the coast, I’m selling and getting the frick out of this shithole.
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
9663 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:25 pm to
No The only new land ( river delta ) is at Wax Lake Outlet and the Mouth of the Athchafalaya. Glad it is happening but the loss of land is staggering. From the Atchafalaya to the Mississippi massive amounts of marsh has been lost. It will never come back.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49696 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:26 pm to
I’m not going to pretend to know the rate of loss but as someone who has hunted and fished coastal Louisiana for 50 plus years I can say for certain it is disappearing at a rapid rate. I can go into areas after just several months and islands I fished are now open water.

We will never get it back and it is getting to a point where even slowing it down is going to be hard without major help from the federal government which might never happen.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:27 pm to
West Bay
Mardi Gras Pass
Grand Pass

All with new subaerial in the last decade or so. Still a net loss but land nonetheless
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79742 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

No The only new land ( river delta ) is at Wax Lake Outlet and the Mouth of the Athchafalaya. Glad it is happening but the loss of land is staggering. From the Atchafalaya to the Mississippi massive amounts of marsh has been lost. It will never come back


Science says you are wrong

wwl link thing

Gaining two football fields an hour
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 8:30 pm
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:30 pm to
Yeah they've been peddling that football field line for as long as I can remember.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:30 pm to
That was applicable in the 70s time frame. Not so much anymore
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12866 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

Someone actually did the math on this lie and proved that - by these numbers - LA would disappear totally in just a few years.

Yeah... no.

1 football field = 1.32 acres
1 football field per 1.5 hours = 21.12 acres per day

Louisiana = 52,378 sq miles
52,378 sq miles = 33,531,920 acres

33,521,920 acres / 21.12 acres per day = 1,587,212 days

1,587,212 days = 4,351 years
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13220 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

Every hour and a half, Louisiana sheds another football field’s worth of land.


Someone actually did the math on this lie and proved that - by these numbers - LA would disappear totally in just a few years.


I'll run the numbers:

Football field = 160 ft x 360 ft = 57,600 ft2.

An acre is 43,560 ft2 so this is 1.32 acres every 1.5 hours.

Multiply by (1/1.5 hours)*(24 hours/day)*(365 days/year) = 5,840 acres/year.

Louisiana is 33,500,000 acres per the internet.

So Louisiana will disappear in 33,500,000/5,840 = 5,736 years at this rate. That rate seems possible, but the rate will slow and end eventually.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

We will never get it back and it is getting to a point where even slowing it down is going to be hard without major help from the federal government which might never happen.


Bring on the downvotes but, really, all you can do is vote for politicians who believe that man can affect climate, both negatively and positively. As long as we refuse to even accept basic facts and commit to making fundamental changes to the way we treat our environment, the sea levels will continue to rise.
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
5166 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:37 pm to
Can someone explain to me in layman's terms why marshland turning into the gulf is bad? Isn't this all uninhabitable land anyway?
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23565 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:40 pm to
quote:


Bring on the downvotes but, really, all you can do is vote for politicians who believe that man can affect climate, both negatively and positively. As long as we refuse to even accept basic facts and commit to making fundamental changes to the way we treat our environment, the sea levels will continue to rise.

Except Louisiana coastline isn't disappearing because sea level is rising, dickhead. It's because sediment isn't being redeposited properly, thanks to man-made changes to control the river. The Mississippi wants to redirect itself over long periods of time, we don't let it.
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