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re: Louisiana COVID-19 - July 24, 2020 Update: 103,734 cases - 3,603 deaths - 1,199,726 tested

Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:08 pm to
Would it really make you feel better if he clarified to say that sometimes duplicates get through and we have to remove them later?

Because the LDH twitter says that every day.
This post was edited on 7/24/20 at 1:09 pm
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
12162 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:13 pm to
Clarity would be great. Are we removing duplicates from yesterday? Or from June? Or from March? Are we only removing duplicates after the person calls in to say they were counted twice? How many duplicates are we finding?

All we get from JBE is quit asking questions, there are NO duplicates. Which we know is bullshite.

That's what I have a problem with.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79913 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:14 pm to
Completely not what he has said.

All your questions have been answered. You are choosing to get upset about something rather than look for the answers
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
12162 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:15 pm to
Straight from his press conference yesterday.

quote:

A positive COVID-19 case reported to the state refers to a specific individual, whether they tested positive once, twice or however many times.

One case = one person.

It is grossly irresponsible to suggest or imply that the state is inflating numbers.


Except for the ones the LDH has to cull through;

quote:

Because of the daily removal of newly identified duplicates and out of state cases, the new case increase may not match the difference between today's and yesterday's total case count.
This post was edited on 7/24/20 at 1:18 pm
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61835 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:18 pm to
But how do they decide which duplicate to delete?

The older ones or the newest one?

Keeping the newest one would help the raging pandemic story line.
This post was edited on 7/24/20 at 1:20 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79913 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

But how do they decide which duplicate to delete?

The older ones or the newest one?


I haven't heard the answer on that. Not sure the criteria.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

All we get from JBE is quit asking questions, there are NO duplicates. Which we know is bullshite.


Honor Chode straight up lies to us every time he opens his mouth.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
43561 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

The only reason I can see for his tirade is to force private schools to not reopen on time.


Quite the opposite. We will stay in phase 2 until the private school tuition refund date has passed.

Then, like magic...back to phase 1.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88470 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:35 pm to
Hospital systems are now testing based on demographic quotas knowing that certain groups are more likely to have covid than others.

Ochsner is in the middle of the study where they originally were asking to test X number of people. However, their African American totals were “too low” so they’re extending the study to try and get more AAs. Anyone want to guess which group has the highest rate of infection?

There are more ways than one to manipulate data, Mr. Governor.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79913 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:37 pm to
Is Oschner testing for antibodies?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88470 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:41 pm to
Yes. They’re doing both. Prerequisite is that you can’t have tested positive before. But it’s only on the questionnaire. They can’t confirm it prior to testing. So anyone can lie and be part of the study. They’ve caught a few people who slipped up and told them they had already tested positive.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79913 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:48 pm to
If they are doing an antibody study to see infection spread it makes sense they would want a demographic representative of the area they are studying. Hence the need for more African Americans in their study.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88470 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:02 pm to
Who said the numbers weren’t already representative of the local population?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79913 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:03 pm to
Apparently Oschner
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88470 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:18 pm to
That’s your assumption and it’s wrong. They’re not looking for a percentage boost. They want a specific number of AAs and will continue testing until they hit that number even if the white/other number increases as well. It’s a quota like I said.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79913 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:18 pm to
You realize this will be a peer reviewed study...
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22284 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

Prerequisite is that you can’t have tested positive before. But it’s only on the questionnaire

What is the basis of the study? Would be odd that someone is disqualified to determine if they have the antibody just because they previously tested positive. In my non-scientific mind, I would think they would then become part of the control group. And, could develop a secondary study to see how long it takes to develop an antibody, and how long the antibody stays in the system.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79913 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:46 pm to
They are looking for antibodies amoung people who were asymptomatic or extremely mild symptoms.

They want to know what part of public was infected that are not accounted for in the positive tests.

Then they add that number to the known positives to give the overall.

They are monitoring antibodies in those giving plasma looking at length of time.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3211 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

We have already demonstrated that the virus comes right back when we ease restrictions. We need to continue opening as long as the health system can continue to function, we haven’t reached the maximum of what we can take.


What's funny in this is that it was mostly liberals pushing the "70%+ of the population will get this!" as a fear mongering technique at the beginning. The same ones that were using the Hammer and Dance thesis (article linked) as the way this "had to go down".

Medium

And they've completely abandoned this strategy now that we're "dancing" and they've now shifted to some kind of eradication goal.

Which, if eradication was the goal, we should have gone full Chinese and started welding doors and Shiite. But, we didn't do that, because the goal was never full eradication. This was always going to be the World + Coronavirus from here on out.

Everything we're seeing in Louisiana looks like it's supposed to, according to the original plan. The only misfire was we thought this surge was going to come in the fall and not necessarily in the dead of summer.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22284 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:16 pm to
That would be interesting to know, but still....
quote:

They are looking for antibodies amoung people who were asymptomatic or extremely mild symptoms.
I don't think a positive test should preclude someone from the study. Wouldn't having a positive test be able to help establish the control group? If the patient answers the questions properly and identifies themselves as having mild or no symptoms.
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