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re: Los Angeles to require COVID vaccine for all students 12 and up
Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:08 am to MorbidTheClown
Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:08 am to MorbidTheClown
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first it was cases
then it was hospitalizations
then it was ventilators
then it was deaths
then it was % positive
then it was % vaccinated
now, it's back to cases or hospitalizations depending on who is talking
Its impossible to keep up. These people are exhausting.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:09 am to The Spleen
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Well, this thread is specifically about the Los Angeles public school district.

Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:11 am to The Spleen
quote:chicken pox is also contagious via air borne droplets.
Chicken pox is spread via direct contact, so a mask would be pointless to limit its spread.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:18 am to The Spleen
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Chicken pox is spread via direct contact
So wrong, every single time.
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Chickenpox is a highly contagious disease caused by the varicella-zoster virus (VZV). The virus spreads easily from people with chickenpox to others who have never had the disease or never been vaccinated. If one person has it, up to 90% of the people close to that person who are not immune will also become infected. The virus spreads mainly through close contact with someone who has chickenpox.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:27 am to arcalades
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chicken pox is also contagious via air borne droplets.
Correct. I should have including a primarily in there. It is primarily spread through contact with the blisters or mucus from someone infected with it, but can also be air borne spread. Masks would help the latter, but not the primary way it spreads, so my point still stands.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Its impossible to keep up. These people are exhausting.
Nuance is exhausting to the simple minded, so this isn't surprising.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:30 am to whatiknowsofar
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Nuance is exhausting to the simple minded, so this isn't surprising.
Roger is an independent thinker!!! How DARE you!
Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:31 am to whatiknowsofar
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Nuance is exhausting
Typical sheepish statement, when they don't understand what the frick theyre babbling about.
You've been asked for data to make "nuanced" decisions and you either don't have it, or are just making shite up.
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 9:32 am
Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:35 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You've been asked for data to make "nuanced" decisions and you either don't have it, or are just making shite up.
I don't have to provide what is readily available to you via search engine. What you've already seen yourself. And I frankly don't care enough about assholes like you that try to shift goalposts constantly to fit your safe space narrative.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:37 am to whatiknowsofar
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I don't have to provide
Because you don't know.
You're just flinging shite that other people have told you, which is uninformed.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:38 am to RogerTheShrubber
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This post was edited on 9/13/21 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:39 am to whatiknowsofar
How many kids drown in swimming pools every year? Should every swimming pool in America be filled in?
Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:39 am to whatiknowsofar
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I don't have to provide what is readily available to you via search engine.
People have provided you very easily findable data regarding kids and you just throw out an article about one and declare everything else doesn't matter.
Muh nuance
Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:44 am to GRTiger
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People have provided you very easily findable data regarding kids and you just throw out an article about one and declare everything else doesn't matter.
Muh nuance
The CDC reports hospitalizations and deaths for all of you to view. Ignoring the last spike and continuing to bury your head in the sand over it is quite sad.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:44 am to jennBN
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Its anecdotal only but I work n the Bay Area. We have 0 pediatric pts with Covid
And I'd imagine your area has a high rate of vaccination. Here in Alabama, there have been double digit hospitalizations of kids with it. That is a low number when you look at the total case load. I think in this state we've had a few kids die from it, and several teachers.
The risk is there for kids, though it is small. It's even smaller when you set the standard on death. There are a host of outcomes though between not getting it and death. I don't really know at what risk level we decide on before required vaccinations are necessary. Perhaps if adults had been adults about this and gotten vaccinated, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:46 am to The Spleen
Ahh that’s a point I had not considered. We are a heavily vaccinated area. Probably more so than Southern California. That would explain our lower hospitalizations.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:52 am to jennBN
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Maybe LSUnurse could weigh in on Arizona?
Peds/PICU unit where I work at is pretty small to begin with. So I can only say what I see there. I can’t really speak for all of PHX metro. Also…I no longer work at the bedside…this is me doing my hospital surveillance for my daily COVID reporting I’m mandated to do to HHS.
There is always at least 1 kid in that unit that has COVID though at any given time since beginning of this summer. Some really young, some older. A few have been on the vents for a little bit(many of those kids had mild asthma to begin with). Some we transferred to a larger children’s hospital cause they needed more advanced care.
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 9:54 am
Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:56 am to loogaroo
As a liberal I was against vaccines last year because Trump was president but now I am for forcing everyone to get them. I don’t have to explain my reasonings to anybody, I’m informed
Posted on 9/10/21 at 10:13 am to kisatchie53
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As a liberal I was against vaccines last year because Trump was president but now I am for forcing everyone to get them. I don’t have to explain my reasonings to anybody, I’m informed
Oh man you totally nailed the libs! Good job!
Posted on 9/10/21 at 10:14 am to whatiknowsofar
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nailed the libs!
A liberal would never support this mandate.
You people are progressives, not liberals.
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