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re: London has fallen: 78 year old stabs burglar- “murder.”

Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:18 am to
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:18 am to
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In many states, it's justifiable homicide even without the immediate threat.


In LA if someone forcibly enters your home, you can use lethal force.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
27272 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:20 am to
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Carma


My Carma ran over your Dogma.
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
6810 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:30 am to
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Officers were called shortly before 1am by a homeowner to reports of a burglary in progress


quote:

"One suspect went upstairs while the homeowner was forced into the kitchen by the second suspect, armed with a screwdriver.


Break into my home at 1AM and I'll assume you intend to physical harm my family.

I'll call the cops after you receive a double-tap or two from my bedside 45.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
17102 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:31 am to
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Just because you have a burglar in your house doesn't always mean your life is threatened enough to justify murder 

Besides, one man's burglar can be someone else's houseguest





If you have a small child in your house and you know someone has just broken in, are you just going to wait and assess the threat level before you act? Are burglars worthy of that?

If anyone breaks into your house it means they are up to no good. Whether they intend to physically harm or not should not be up to the home owner to determine. The burglar gave up that right once they entered illegally.
This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 10:26 am
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
13663 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:44 am to
I'm on the side that says you can use whatever force necessary if someone breaks into your house, but breaking in at night makes this even worse. It's not like these guys came in during the day assuming nobody was home. If you break in an occupied home at night, you are assuming people are there. You should get whatever is coming to you.
This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 9:45 am
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106105 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:47 am to
From another article: This appears to be a formality

quote:

Norman Brennan, a former police officer who represents victims’ interests, said police were required to arrest the pensioner in order to investigate whether he had acted in self defence.

But he said he would be “amazed” if he was prosecuted over the death.

“The law says that a person can use reasonable force when defending himself, his family or property. If the intruder is running away the threat has diminished but if that person stays where they are that’s an assault and if they are armed with a weapon then it would be regarded as aggravating circumstances,” said Mr Brennan.

He added: “I cannot see any jury convicting someone in a case where the householder, for example, takes a knife and in a struggle with the burglar injures him.
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4793 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:52 am to
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Arrested <> Convicted


Arrested =/ Charged
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
13663 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:57 am to
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He added: “I cannot see any jury convicting someone in a case where the householder, for example, takes a knife and in a struggle with the burglar injures him.


Good. Let the overreactions continue, though.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49579 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:01 am to
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In LA if someone forcibly enters your home, you can use lethal force


Again, this is not 100% accurate. The Castle Doctrine simply grants a legal presumption of defense for a person using force against the person in their home. It doesn't mean that they cannot be convicted of a degree of homicide in certain instances.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:03 am to
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Just because you have a burglar in your house doesn't always mean your life is threatened enough to justify murder


You have the right to defend your home against burglars. If you are stupid enought to break into someone else’s home, what happens to you is on you. You invaded someone else’s private home. In doing so, you made yourself an instant threat. The home owner has no way of knowing what your intentions are. Laws that don’t allow you to defend your own home are absolute bullshite.
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