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re: Livingston Parish is on the verge of collapse due to development
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:01 pm to TygerDurden
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:01 pm to TygerDurden
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At the drop of a hat they will build a loop around even a tiny town. If the Baton Rouge traffic shite show were in Houston they would have had that issue solved 40 years ago.
As a toll road.
But even mention "toll" here in LA and people lose their minds.
At some point we need to start pointing the finger at the citizens.
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:01 pm to theunknownknight
Just stay the hell out of St. Francisville and New Roads.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:02 pm to theunknownknight
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What we are about to see in God's country
I wasn't aware God was so fond of meth heads and pedophiles.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:03 pm to LSU82BILL
Yeah they build the infrastructure within the development but larger impacts on wastewater treatment, road widenings, water production and storage still fall to the city.
ETA: Rural developments not on municipal sewer systems generally construct their own package treatment plants so that wouldn't be on the city.
I'd also say the people complaining about the lack of foresight for four lane roads would also be complaining about wasteful government spending for four lane roads in the middle of no where. They'd also be the first ones to vote down millages for infrastructure improvements
ETA: Rural developments not on municipal sewer systems generally construct their own package treatment plants so that wouldn't be on the city.
I'd also say the people complaining about the lack of foresight for four lane roads would also be complaining about wasteful government spending for four lane roads in the middle of no where. They'd also be the first ones to vote down millages for infrastructure improvements
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:04 pm to theunknownknight
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Just to name a few under discussion now. We are talking, here of over 10,000 homes just on this page
This is absurd to me. The prices of new construction is going up. Interest rates are going up.
People should be looking at smaller, more affordable "fixer uppers" for their first time homes. New construction should be taking a hit for the next few years.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:05 pm to LSU82BILL
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Don't LA municipalities require the developers to build the infrastructure as part of the approval of the project?
Do you even waiver, bro?
St. Bernard Parish, which isn't even that big, a few years ago finally did a comprehensive zoning plan. Variances go to a board to be recommended approval or denial, and then go to the council for a vote.
Every council meeting, in this little bitty parish, there are at least a few variances for the council to consider.
Most of the variances were recommended "deny" by the zoning board, or "approve with conditions".
Just about 100 percent of the variances are approved by the council, and any conditions removed, because "well people have a right to do what they want with their property".
Unless of course you are the Port of New Orleans...
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:07 pm to theunknownknight
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Livingston Parish is on the verge of collapse due to development
Financially, the new development helps their tax revenue scheme. Generally the developments themselves don't require major road or subsurface rework from the parish for 20-30 years. But those property taxes get collected right away.
The problem is the added burden those new homes place on road, water lines, sewers, and schools. Either the developers foot the bill for the infrastructure improvements or the parish needs to issue a local tax to cover the costs of widening roads and building sewer treatment plants.
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:07 pm to theunknownknight
That’s why the parish president of West Feliciana parish put a moratorium on any new developments in the parish as soon as he took office. His main goal is to have things in place for smart growth so the parish doesn’t experience the same issues
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:08 pm to goofball
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outh Louisiana's cities have a damn strong industrial base.
They struggle with white collar jobs, but blue collar workers and engineers usually don't have many issues finding lucrative employment.
That said...Livingston isn't really where those industrial jobs are.
Right... not in Livingston.
And while we have a strong industrial base in certain areas... none of them are putting out massive expansions WITH massive amounts of new workers.
Plants are adding 3 billion expansions with 6 new employees, etc.
Maybe it will be all the Amazon workers buying these houses...
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:09 pm to tigerinthebueche
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oh please, tell me where in Lafayette you see infrastructure planning and development?
They planned out the future I-49 corridor decades ago
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:09 pm to member12
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New construction should be taking a hit for the next few years.
It will.
LP will end up with a bunch of new subdivsisions with 1/6th the amount of homes actually built when the whole market collapses.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:09 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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That’s why the parish president of West Feliciana parish put a moratorium on any new developments in the parish as soon as he took office. His main goal is to have things in place for smart growth so the parish doesn’t experience the same issues
Pointe Coupee basically copied West Feliciana's whole playbook this year. West Baton Rouge is not as strict, but they have started trying to adopt more rules and controls, knowing that sprawl is inevitable.
Ascension and Livingston are a damn free for all.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:17 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Plants are adding 3 billion expansions with 6 new employees, etc.
There's 20-30 expansions and new facilities in the works for the area along the river between Baton Rouge and New Orleans. Things like Methanex, Shintech, Shell, Mitsubishi, Westlake, etc. They may only hire a few dozen operators with each expansion....but they'll rely on a shite load of well paid contractors from places like Turner, B&R, etc. for maintenance and internal projects while they are operating. The trend in the last decade is to outsource everything they can like that to 3rd party contractors.
But as you've pointed out, none of those are in Livingston Parish. Not sure what's driving the growth there other than maybe home prices in the nicer parts of EBR just getting too high.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:21 pm to theunknownknight
Florida between Walker and Denham should be 4 lanes with a middle turn lane, at least. Juban, which they are working on, should have been completed before that entire area was developed. As it stands, it'll probably be 2025 before that is finished. Pete's hwy should also be 4 lanes
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:23 pm to Shexter
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Donaldsonville .....viable
Huh?
Well, not D'ville proper, but down the bayou. The way AP and LP have been going, it'll be gridlock in the mornings and evenings and flooding won't get better anytime soon.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:25 pm to theunknownknight
Without businesses, and only housing, it’s very tough for any area to keep up
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:29 pm to Shiftyplus1
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Florida between Walker and Denham should be 4 lanes with a middle turn lane
Definitely at least 4 lanes between Denham and Walker, but they may as well just do it all the way to Hammond.
That are is going to get a lot of development over the next 20 years.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:29 pm to theunknownknight
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beacons of light in this dying state
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Livingston Parish
Does not compute
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:30 pm to bountyhunter
quote:say what?
You know that, other than maybe Lafayette, the entire state is garbage at developing infrastructure at any point, much less being proactive about it.
Coming from someone who manages around 20 pavement projects at a time in different parts of the state, and has lived in Lafayette, BR, and NOla…
Lafayette has by far some of the worst roads I’ve ever seen. The fact that they haven’t at least overlayed Evangeline thruway, is criminal. One of the main corridors through the city feels like a wooden roller coaster. Pinhook is arse too.
They are always trying to add work outside of the scope and budget like replace so-and-so’s driveway culvert and projects never get finished.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:32 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Unless of course you are the Port of New Orleans...
They’re welcome to build a port if they can figure out how to do it without truck traffic
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