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re: Little League Dilemma: Was I in the Right or Wrong? UPDATE PG.15

Posted on 2/16/15 at 10:36 am to
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37625 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 10:36 am to
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Dude I used work work with was severely pissed when Ricky Henderson broke Lou Brock's record (he was a big time Card's fan). Claimed a shite ton of Henderson's steals were stat padders. Can remember it to this day. "When Lou Brock stole a base, it freakin meant something!"


Was it this guy?

Posted by Green Grass Miracle
Colorado
Member since Jan 2015
119 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 10:38 am to
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Life's not going to show anyone mercy. So why is it important to shield kids on the verge of puberty from the facts of life.


You are missing my point entirely. I said that yes, kids should learn how to deal with humiliation, but it's also not appropriate to teach kids that it's ok to humiliate others by running up the score.

quote:

The coach on the other team passed up an opportunity to teach perhaps the most important lesson these kids may ever learn.


Most important lesson? While I agree that the losing team's coach could have handeled it better, I think you put a little too much weight on this.
Posted by Green Grass Miracle
Colorado
Member since Jan 2015
119 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 10:40 am to
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As a parent, I can only teach my son how to respond to what jut happened on the field and that's basically where my comments are coming from...


Of course! But we also need to teach our kids how to deal with the opposite end of the spectrum.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19459 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 10:53 am to
bottom line:

the kids learned a much better lesson about life than if the OP had not done what he had done. So he did the right thing.

One of those kids may grow up to cure cancer, and he can thank the coach of that opposite team on that warm February day in 2015 for putting a fire in his belly about never giving up when the deck is stacked against you.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Member since Jun 2011
29200 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:00 am to
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Who lets 9 year olds play with 12 year olds anyway? This league is either fake or really screwed up.


The little league that I played in was 9-12 year olds.

Seemed pretty standard at the time
Posted by Green Grass Miracle
Colorado
Member since Jan 2015
119 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:13 am to
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the kids learned a much better lesson about life than if the OP had not done what he had done. So he did the right thing.


You are only looking at one side of the coin. You need to also take into consideration what you are teaching the kids on the winning team.
Posted by 2geaux
Georgia
Member since Feb 2008
2695 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:18 am to
Run!!
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:20 am to
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You need to also take into consideration what you are teaching the kids on the winning team.



Yeah...exploit your opponents weakness is a valuable lesson too.
Posted by Forgiving Morgan
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Member since Nov 2010
453 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:23 am to
The following should be required reading for all youth baseball parents, and for that matter coaches. I know it has been very helpful to me:

Matheney Manifesto
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14090 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:41 am to
Super Coach would rather listen to Rush Limbaugh than Mike Metheny. You are wasting your time.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
55010 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 11:49 am to
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Super Coach would rather listen to Rush Limbaugh than Mike Metheny. You are wasting your time.


I just read some of the highligths from the Metheny link, appears to me Mike Metheny thinks a lot like Rush or should I say a conservative with conservative values..



Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

The following should be required reading for all youth baseball parents, and for that matter coaches. I know it has been very helpful to me:


agreed

quote:

Matheney Manifesto


dont see a lot of any of it today.

quote:

“I know that times have changed,
but one of the greatest lessons
that my father taught me was
that my coach was always right…
even when he was wrong.”



hardest lesson as a player I had to learn\endure
Posted by GeauxWest
Katy
Member since Aug 2014
925 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:29 pm to
You are in the RIGHT but in the WRONG venue. You should go to travel ball (select) no bleeding heart liberals there!!
Posted by NorthTiger
Upper 40
Member since Jan 2004
3866 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:53 pm to
Catchers at that age group generally can't throw out runners.

If you think teaching kids that winning is the only thing then thank God you didn't coach my son. Teaching kids how to win in baseball includes more than hitting, catching and base running. Then again, this is that age old argument ... is it okay to run up the score?
Posted by Green Grass Miracle
Colorado
Member since Jan 2015
119 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 1:02 pm to
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Yeah...exploit your opponents weakness is a valuable lesson too.


Now you have to be trolling. You talk like you can't exploit a weakness and win gracefully or show mercy. Go watch the 2011 Ole Miss game. Though I think Les shouldn't have done the mercy knee, he still wasn't "exploiting" Ole Miss's weaknesses at that point. LSU could have beaten teams 80-10 several times in 2011 and we didn't.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17318 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 1:03 pm to
Holy hell, this fake arse thread is at 13 pages with no sign of slowing down.

Outstanding thread marketing, OP.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 1:07 pm to
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You talk like you can't exploit a weakness and win gracefully or show mercy.


blowing a team out has nothing to do with winning gracefully. Not taunting the other team after winning is winning gracefully.

Mercy? mercy is for losers and women, which one of the two aforementioned groups do you fall under?

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Go watch the 2011 Ole Miss game. Though I think Les


This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 1:08 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
59044 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 1:14 pm to
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exploit your opponents weakness is a valuable lesson too.

seems to me that without a glaring weakness in their opponent this team sucks.

Therefore, you can wait until you come up on a team with a noodle arm catcher and you can win and go eat pizza. I would equate it to the coaches who lead off the dude that is 4 foot tall, squat him down and never let him take his bat off his shoulder. A runner is a runner.

ORRRR you could actually improve, field better, throw better, hit better, run faster, hit cut off man, relay, cuts, fielding bunts, situational awareness.

That is the lessons taught by baseball, working hard, improving, and getting better.......not 10 running a team where you did nothing of value yourself.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 1:18 pm to
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seems to me that without a glaring weakness in their opponent this team sucks.


He starts off by saying the team only won one game last year.

How dense are you? The team isnt good, and generally, you attack your opponents weakness...why? because it levels the playing field.

You remind me of the coaches, who like the opposing coach here, gets all pissy because he isnt winning with his superior talent. Yes, coaching matters too, and teaching the kids the most effective way to win is important.

You, and the like of anyone else, aren't "owed" a victory because you have better talent. You and the rest of the milesinistas would do well to remember that.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17318 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

ORRRR you could actually improve, field better, throw better, hit better, run faster, hit cut off man, relay, cuts, fielding bunts, situational awareness.

That is the lessons taught by baseball, working hard, improving, and getting better.......not 10 running a team where you did nothing of value yourself.



Amazing! Someone that actually gets that (if this scenario were actually real) that the OP wasn't an idiot for winning by a lot, he was an idiot for doing nothing that taught them how to actually, you know, play baseball.
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