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Life expectancy chart and W-shaped mortality curve of the 1918 Flu
Posted on 10/19/21 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 10/19/21 at 7:36 pm
Doing a re-read of Gina Kolata's book Flu.
The damndest strain of flu ever. (Its effects were so bizarre, a lot of physicians at the time had a hard time believing it was an influenza virus.)
Hit 3 different age groups hardest: infants, 20-30 year olds, and >70 year olds.
2.5% global mortality rate.
25 percent of the United States infected.
The damndest strain of flu ever. (Its effects were so bizarre, a lot of physicians at the time had a hard time believing it was an influenza virus.)
Hit 3 different age groups hardest: infants, 20-30 year olds, and >70 year olds.
2.5% global mortality rate.
25 percent of the United States infected.
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 7:46 pm to UndercoverBryologist
quote:If you like Gina Kolata, getting caught in the rain.
Gina Kolata's book Flu.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 7:47 pm to UndercoverBryologist
I read this in the summer of 2020. It was really a great book. The federal government hardly did anything. The flu variant caused a massive overreaction on the immune system of healthy males, which lead to the W shaped curve.
Turns out, it actually started in Kansas.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 7:49 pm to alajones
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Turns out, it actually started in Kansas.
But we call it Spanish Flu because frick THE SPANIARDS!
Posted on 10/19/21 at 7:56 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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But we call it Spanish Flu because frick THE SPANIARDS!
But mostly because Spain wasn't a belligerent in WWI, so its government freely reported on the illness within its borders while the belligerent nations suppressed reporting of their flu numbers to hide the impact to their readiness and attached the name "Spanish Flu" to it because of Spain's open reporting in order to avoid having the pandemic pinned to them for propaganda reasons.
There's always a reason for governments to lie...
Posted on 10/19/21 at 7:57 pm to UndercoverBryologist
If I remember right...
We call it spanish flu because the american government pressured the day's media into not reporting accurate information.
The Spanish media was one of the few at the time willing to report the information.
We call it spanish flu because the american government pressured the day's media into not reporting accurate information.
The Spanish media was one of the few at the time willing to report the information.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 7:58 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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But we call it Spanish Flu because frick THE SPANIARDS!
Not being involved in WWI, the Spanish press was not censored and reported on the pandemic when the press in belligerent countries didn't.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 7:58 pm to TigerstuckinMS
I was being (somewhat) flippant, but yeah, it was because the Spanish cases were the first known because they didn't suppress their media.
Genetic analyses have demonstrated that the Kansas cases were most likely the first cases in the entire world.
Genetic analyses have demonstrated that the Kansas cases were most likely the first cases in the entire world.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 8:02 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Genetic analyses have demonstrated that the Kansas cases were most likely the first cases in the entire world.
Oh, I agree there. Our hygiene at Army camps wasn't all that great and it exploded in the camp it got into. Those soldiers then spread it through the armed forces and the major port cities of the East coast as they deployed to Europe.
Was it intentional to share the wealth with the other belligerent countries?
Using biologics as a weapon is as American as apple pie, though.Posted on 10/19/21 at 8:04 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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Was it intentional to share the wealth with the other belligerent countries?
Never attribute to intentional malevolence that which can more likely attributed to plain incompetence.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 8:18 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Hit 3 different age groups hardest: infants, 20-30 year olds, and >70 year olds.
Your chart shows the death rate for old folks actually declined compared to previous years.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 8:23 pm to BuckyCheese
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Your chart shows the death rate for old folks actually declined compared to previous years.
Yeah, but I wasn’t saying that the 1918 flu significantly increased elderly mortality more than previous years. But that the elderly were one of 3 age groups significantly affected more than other age groups.
It still did most of its damage on twentysomethings.
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 10/19/21 at 8:26 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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was being (somewhat) flippant, but yeah, it was because the Spanish cases were the first known because they didn't suppress their media. Genetic analyses have demonstrated that the Kansas cases were most likely the first cases in the entire world.
I learned something new today. I always thought it originated in Spain.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:22 pm to alajones
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started in Kansas.
Sneaky fricking Spaniards.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:47 pm to UndercoverBryologist
And they didn't even have 5G.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:51 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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The damndest strain of flu ever. (Its effects were so bizarre, a lot of physicians at the time had a hard time believing it was an influenza virus.)
If I'm not mistaken, the 1918 flu was a strain of H1N1 which is still amongst us today.
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