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re: Let's talk about the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings
Posted on 12/3/14 at 7:31 pm to GetmorewithLes
Posted on 12/3/14 at 7:31 pm to GetmorewithLes
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Contrast the nuke bombs with the firebombing of Tokyo by conventional bombs in 1945 that rendered between 100k - 125k deaths! That did not convince them to surrender. That number did not include casualties that survived. These people were essentially burned to death.
15 square miles of Tokyo were burned to the ground. That didn't make them quit.
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:18 pm to truetigerfan1975
If only you truly understood. Talk to a WWII vet.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:26 pm to truetigerfan1975
Play stupid games wins stupid prizes.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:47 pm to truetigerfan1975
Frick with the bull and you get the horns. They started it, and we finished it. US fricking A!!!!!
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:51 pm to jchamil
Exactly...my grandfather was in the Pacific theater and was in the Bataan Death March and a POW for several years after. Listening to some of his stories when I was younger made me sick to my stomach. I think we should have destroyed the entire Japanese civilization...which MacArther threatened to do.
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These brutal reprisals upon helpless victims evidence the shallow advance from savagery which the Japanese people have made. [...] We serve notice upon the Japanese military and political leaders as well as the Japanese people that the future of the Japanese race itself, depends entirely and irrevocably upon their capacity to progress beyond their aboriginal barbaric instincts.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:55 pm to asurob1
They were committing atrocities in the Pacific Islands years prior to Pearl. My Best friends grandfather was stationed on Oahu in 1940 and he was a photography buff. He had a hundred or more photos of the most terrible executions imaginable. Dis-embowelments, heads severed with a sword,etc.. Followed by photos of the bodies being desecrated with their own cocks cut off and shoved in their mouths. Will always remember the black and white image of a mans head in mid air after it had been cut off by a sword. Before he died, he told me of several executions where the executioner missed the mark by an inch or more and the executed man struggling for life. They were an extremely savage culture.
As a side note,he also had some unique images of Pearl during and after the bombing raids.
As a side note,he also had some unique images of Pearl during and after the bombing raids.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:58 pm to truetigerfan1975
I love how the pussy anonymous OP said, "let's talk" and he pusses out on talking about it. He just wanted to stir the shite.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:04 pm to truetigerfan1975
They deserved it for the Bataan death march alone.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:07 pm to truetigerfan1975
I was your 50th down vote.
You're a pussy if you think we weren't justified.
You're a pussy if you think we weren't justified.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:12 pm to LSUwag
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:15 pm to LSUwag
No one of our generation can apply what they know now and expect to rationalize what we did then or the thought processes of those that directed the war. We firebombed the piss out of them and they didn't surender. We dropped Little Boy and they didn't surender. There was an attempted coup and they didn't surender. Now let's apply the blockade plan starting on Aug 6, 1945, not invade the Japanese mainland and not drop the nukes. Would it have been more humane to firebomb and starve them to death for several more months?
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:22 pm to CocomoLSU
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Pretty much that it was a necessary evil at that point.
I'll find a link, but there are credible counterarguments against that position--the necessary part that is.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:31 pm to Dick Leverage
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They were an extremely savage culture.
And to counteract that Americans sat in their easy chairs while their government ordered young men to fly planes over Japanese cities and drop "the basic power of the universe" on civilians. Much less brutal culture.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 10:06 pm to McLemore
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And to counteract that Americans sat in their easy chairs while their government ordered young men to fly planes over Japanese cities and drop "the basic power of the universe" on civilians. Much less brutal culture.
That's a shiny hook you put out there.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 10:09 pm to GumBro Jackson
quote:It's equally impossible to know how things would have turned out if the US had not imposed crippling economic sanctions on Japan.
It is impossible to know how things would have turned out if the US had not bombed Japan.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 10:23 pm to gorillacoco
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the entire Japanese empire was committed to 'total war'
using the nuke is precisely what "total war" is.
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