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re: Lets talk about mental health in america
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:27 am to Boudreaux35
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:27 am to Boudreaux35
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:27 am to Pettifogger
if we stop diagnosing because some people are faking, the ones who really need the help will be left by themselves. that's the catch 22.
better to over diagnose at this point in time than to under diagnose IMO, but we are over diagnosing the attention whores while not doing enough to encourage the ones that need help to seek it.
I agree with all of your points though.
better to over diagnose at this point in time than to under diagnose IMO, but we are over diagnosing the attention whores while not doing enough to encourage the ones that need help to seek it.
I agree with all of your points though.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:30 am to oleyeller
So what you're saying is the retards that say, "No Josh, you're just shy!" aren't helping things?
It's tough for people that have not gone through it to understand it. I honestly have no idea how to communicate my issues with those people because all I tend to get are old Nike slogan variations, JUST DO IT!
I've been incredibly open on this board about my battles with depression and anxiety, which has actually led to some good conversation.
It's tough for people that have not gone through it to understand it. I honestly have no idea how to communicate my issues with those people because all I tend to get are old Nike slogan variations, JUST DO IT!
I've been incredibly open on this board about my battles with depression and anxiety, which has actually led to some good conversation.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:30 am to TH03
For me the over diagnosing is from the GP who will prescribe the lexapro or xanax just because someone comes in and says they are having anxiety attacks. Instead those should be referred to a psyc dr who can correctly diagnose the patient. GPs are passing out psyc meds like candy for anyone who says they are sad.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:34 am to oleyeller
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naw these people posting like idiots are just trying to be billy bad asses on the internet because they are pussies in real life.. i get their reasons. It makes them feel like they are a hard arse, i get it.
Probably so, but I still think it's an indication of a real lack of love and empathy in their lives, which stems from a lack of life experiences in hard times themselves, and since humanity never seems to be able to really excell at empathizing and only judge by our own experiences and what we know first hand many will only truly get it when it hits them between the eyes personally.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:34 am to TH03
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if we stop diagnosing because some people are faking, the ones who really need the help will be left by themselves. that's the catch 22.
Yeah, I can't say I'm really advocating for it. I do think it is a problem when the average college girl sees 75% on medication and thinks "maybe I need that too" when most are probably dealing with the normal life issues that accompany the massive change people go through from 18-22.
Not sure how we deal with it.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:34 am to Jcorye1
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It's tough for people that have not gone through it to understand it. I honestly have no idea how to communicate my issues with those people because all I tend to get are old Nike slogan variations, JUST DO IT! I've been incredibly open on this board about my battles with depression and anxiety, which has actually led to some good conversation.
This is what i was saying, people are quick to say just get over it, you're being weak minded. But they need to get educated on mental illness because it is very real. That would be equal to me telling someone with cancer to get up and get over it, just do it.. because i have never dealed with having cancer its easy for me to say.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:34 am to oleyeller
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Lets talk about mental health in america
I am not sure about this, but the three woman in my life are batshit crazy
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:34 am to oleyeller
because a lot of GPs think they should be the ones treating everything instead of referring them to someone who specializes in mental health.
if you have a broken arm, they'll refer you to someone, so why not when you have depression or anxiety issues? a psych will be able to administer personality inventories, anxiety testing, etc and better diagnose you. sometimes all that's needed is therapy. no need to be quick to throw pills at the issue.
if you have a broken arm, they'll refer you to someone, so why not when you have depression or anxiety issues? a psych will be able to administer personality inventories, anxiety testing, etc and better diagnose you. sometimes all that's needed is therapy. no need to be quick to throw pills at the issue.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:36 am to Pettifogger
start with mandatory psych evals by a shrink or psychologist before prescribing meds specifically to treat depression, anxiety, bipolar, etc.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:36 am to oleyeller
I think the general perception that American society is growing weaker and more pathetic is being taken out on the mental health community.
I tend to agree that our society is growing somewhat pathetic, but directing that ire toward people with true issues is so counterproductive.
I tend to agree that our society is growing somewhat pathetic, but directing that ire toward people with true issues is so counterproductive.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:36 am to Mike da Tigah
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Probably so, but I still think it's an indication of a real lack of love and empathy in their lives, which stems from a lack of life experiences in hard times themselves, and since humanity never seems to be able to really excell at empathizing and only judge by our own experiences and what we know first hand many will only truly get it when it hits them between the eyes personally.
You are on the right track.. alot of mental illness comes from lack of healthy relationships as a child and growing up with parents who are alcohol or drug abusers or physical abusers.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:37 am to CurDog
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I am not sure about this, but the three woman in my life are bat shite crazy
they prob are
but this is not the thread for that convo
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:39 am to TH03
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TH03
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:42 am to TH03
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because a lot of GPs think they should be the ones treating everything instead of referring them to someone who specializes in mental health.
Not the GP's I know. The problem is in the small towns where a lot of GP's practice, the clientele doesn't want to go to a specialist because of lack of convenience or embarrassment.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:43 am to Pettifogger
My personal favorite is when I'm told to pray it away and Jesus will save me.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:46 am to oleyeller
You really deserve more than one downvote for writing all that, but one is all I have to give.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:46 am to pointdog33
not all GPs, but a lot. I was fortunate enough when I was first going through some shite to have one who encouraged me to stay with my therapist and they worked together to manage my medicine and therapy. I know there are plenty of them like this, but there are also plenty who don't recognize their limits on mental healthcare.
we need the norm to be referring patients to mental health specialists just like they would for oncologists or urologists, etc.
we need the norm to be referring patients to mental health specialists just like they would for oncologists or urologists, etc.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:52 am to oleyeller
Good post.
quote:This is something I really feel is a huge problem in our country. Instead of addressing the root cause, they just stick to blaming the problem on surface things that don't really have a huge impact on the decision-making behavior mentally ill people exhibit.
Mental Health is a major problem in this country, they are constantly cutting funding and pushing it to the back burner of budgets. But when something major happens and some "crazy" person shoots up a school they want to blame guns, or video games.. instead of looking for mental illness and trying to give people a better understanding of mental illness and help fund treatment for patients.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:53 am to When in Rome
Ban AR15s!!!!
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