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Posted on 10/3/18 at 4:17 pm to Stexas
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If you've ever gotten out of jury duty you've got no room to complain. If you think the system is broken, do something instead of complaining about it on a message board.
So are you saying the jury convicted him and then set him loose?
Come on man!!!
Posted on 10/3/18 at 4:20 pm to SPEEDY
Nothing like another thread where people complain about how shitty Louisiana is but refuse to move.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 4:39 pm to tigersfirst
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Yes, I understand you are of the opinion that he should have still been in jail. However, your assertion that you would "sue the shite" out of the judge, DA, lawyers, and governmental agencies involved in the first case is extremely ignorant. You believing his sentence was too lenient does not make any of those people liable for the death of Mr. Ross - which, as it turns out, noone has been convicted of
If someone challenged the people and actually won, maybe you would see serious sentences for serious crimes.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 5:39 pm to doubleb
He PLED. The jury never heard the case... DAs get enough equittals from having no quality jurors available to hear a case so the chose to get a plea deal.
Come On Man!!!!
Come On Man!!!!
Posted on 10/3/18 at 5:40 pm to SPEEDY
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And we wonder why we have a violent crime problem in this state
You could put the Louisiana justice system in Vermont and Vermont wouldn’t be violent
Posted on 10/3/18 at 6:10 pm to Stexas
What does jury duty have to do with the OP complaining about a bad plea deal?
Posted on 10/3/18 at 6:31 pm to SPEEDY
quote:I don't wonder why
And we wonder why we have a violent crime problem in this state
Posted on 10/3/18 at 6:33 pm to Stexas
You are looking even worse man.
People getting out of jury caused the DA to take a plea?
People getting out of jury caused the DA to take a plea?
Posted on 10/3/18 at 6:41 pm to SPEEDY
A lot of this also is on the victims in previous cases. If they dont push the DA and want to go to court to up the ante, the criminals get off easy.
I got robbed at gunpoint and carjacked years ago in Nola. This was the guys 3rd time getting caught for armed robbery and about the 10th+ time he had been arrested.
The DA said I could come into town multiple times to go to court and get the guy 10 to 15 years. I had already missed some school and work because of this and didnt want to miss a bunch more. I went to court once, had the DA handle it, and the guy got 4 years. He got out in 3. Whatever
I got robbed at gunpoint and carjacked years ago in Nola. This was the guys 3rd time getting caught for armed robbery and about the 10th+ time he had been arrested.
The DA said I could come into town multiple times to go to court and get the guy 10 to 15 years. I had already missed some school and work because of this and didnt want to miss a bunch more. I went to court once, had the DA handle it, and the guy got 4 years. He got out in 3. Whatever
Posted on 10/4/18 at 6:59 am to rowbear1922
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If someone challenged the people and actually won, maybe you would see serious sentences for serious crimes.
The way to do that would be elect different judges and DAs. Not sue them. You would have no cause of action to sue those people in this scenario and your lawsuit would be thrown out with a swiftness.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 7:08 am to SPEEDY
So was he under Judge Trudy White’s supervision? Wrote a letter saying he was sorry in return for being freed a few year early? Out society, especially in Louisiana, is SO screwed.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 7:11 am to TH03
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TH03
Keep your arse in Texas. You know nothing about Louisiana.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 7:14 am to tigersfirst
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The way to do that would be elect different judges and DAs. Not sue them. You would have no cause of action to sue those people in this scenario and your lawsuit would be thrown out with a swiftness.
I agree in electing different judges. How people like Trudy continue to be elected is beyond my comprehension. Actually, no it's not. The people that vote for her LOVED her video about criminals going home early under Trudy. I wish it was just that easy to vote them out, but in all honesty it isn't because criminals want people like Trudy in the seat.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 9:02 am to doubleb
If I look bad, I guess I'll just double down on ugly...
My point is, DAs rely on juries to get verdicts. If you have a difficult time getting normal people to serve as jurors your chances of convictions are severely hampered.
For example, a few years ago, in a small town in rural LA, the local sheriff's office conducted a raid search warrant of a known multiple time convicted felon drug dealer. In his house, in his night stand, next to the bed he was in when then entered the house, they found a pistol, and a tin of crack. The crack was under the man's wallet with his drivers license in it. Clearly, in my opinion, enough evidence for a conviction. The DA had a difficult time selecting a jury and had to have 2 jury pools to seat 12 + 2 alternates. After the acquittal, during a discussion the foreman of the jury explained they voted the way they did because they were fortunate enough to have a self professed expert in drug storage and distribution who explained that only law enforcement stores crack the way it was found so clearly it must have been planted by the corrupt LEOs and if the drugs were planted so was the gun.
TLDR: if the DA can't trust getting a jury without prejudices toward criminals, you get more plea deals. If the criminals know this they won't take normal plea deals and are either willing to take a chance with a jury for an acquittal or wait for a more favorable plea deal, tying up the system longer, leading to those without knowledge of the system complaining about how long it takes to handle a case.
My point is, DAs rely on juries to get verdicts. If you have a difficult time getting normal people to serve as jurors your chances of convictions are severely hampered.
For example, a few years ago, in a small town in rural LA, the local sheriff's office conducted a raid search warrant of a known multiple time convicted felon drug dealer. In his house, in his night stand, next to the bed he was in when then entered the house, they found a pistol, and a tin of crack. The crack was under the man's wallet with his drivers license in it. Clearly, in my opinion, enough evidence for a conviction. The DA had a difficult time selecting a jury and had to have 2 jury pools to seat 12 + 2 alternates. After the acquittal, during a discussion the foreman of the jury explained they voted the way they did because they were fortunate enough to have a self professed expert in drug storage and distribution who explained that only law enforcement stores crack the way it was found so clearly it must have been planted by the corrupt LEOs and if the drugs were planted so was the gun.
TLDR: if the DA can't trust getting a jury without prejudices toward criminals, you get more plea deals. If the criminals know this they won't take normal plea deals and are either willing to take a chance with a jury for an acquittal or wait for a more favorable plea deal, tying up the system longer, leading to those without knowledge of the system complaining about how long it takes to handle a case.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 9:09 am to SPEEDY
so a certain demographic doesn't respect human life?
color me shocked
inb4 dindu, "culcha", the peoples, etc
color me shocked
inb4 dindu, "culcha", the peoples, etc
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