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re: Let's pay DoorDash/UberEats workers $33/hr - NYC

Posted on 4/29/23 at 5:12 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 5:12 pm to
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How would the company decide how many hours a driver worked?
Isn't the rate now based on number of deliveries and how long it takes to make the delivery, or something along those lines?

Honest question, what's the issue with the current model?
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
19913 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 6:46 pm to
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I agree with you. Fortunately, some restaurants have wisened up to this. They don't want to put the burden on their entire customer base, so they basically carry two different menus with different pricing. If you order online or through an app, you will see one price. If you call them or place your order in person and wait, you get a different, cheaper price. I've been told this by two different restaurants lately, one Chinese and one Vietnamese. They will do the delivery services, but they aren't going to lose their asses on every order.
How do they lose out on profit margins when customers order online or through Ubereats/Doordash/etc? I've never used these delivery services, so I'm genuinely asking. I assumed you pay whatever the normal price for a dish is, and then DoorDash or whatever adds on their delivery fee plus tip.
Posted by bostitch
Member since Apr 2016
794 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 6:57 pm to
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You want $33/hour? Fine but work a minimum number of hours to get that and you don’t get to be as picky on your trips since tips won’t be as important. Hours worked could be the time you’re actively picking up and delivering.


In a similar business based out of NYC. This population is the least reliable, shittiest performing out of any hourly population I've been associated with.

We had to move to a set schedule vs on demand because they couldn't be trusted to pick up. So now we monitor hours in our delivery app, pay a significant portion of wage directly. Its a group that needs to be tightly controlled like children because theyre largely fricking terrible. Now throw in behavior. I've seen one courier pull a gun on a customer. Another try to run a customer over with his car when said customer tried to prevent him from stealing a neighbors Amazon package.

Yeah, let's give these turds 70k while NYPD makes ~50.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75069 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 7:06 pm to
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How do they lose out on profit margins when customers order online or through Ubereats/Doordash/etc? I've never used these delivery services, so I'm genuinely asking. I assumed you pay whatever the normal price for a dish is, and then DoorDash or whatever adds on their delivery fee plus tip.

The delivery services take a cut of every item ordered to the tune of ~25%.

For strictly online orders, which use different services, the Chinese joint I go to gets charged $2 for every order. The way the owner did it was for the restaurant to pay a dollar and the customer to pay a dollar. Prices online are $1 higher than in the restaurant.
This post was edited on 4/29/23 at 7:09 pm
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
10039 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 8:21 pm to
This is a dumb response.

You’re acting like just because doordash exists that you deserve to be able to get food with no tip.

No tip no trip should be the motto of anyone wanting to make money dashing. If you dash you’re an independent contractor.

A driver not taking an order because someone doesn’t understand economics is the same thing as a contractor turning away a tightwad homeowner.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
19913 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 8:29 pm to
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The delivery services take a cut of every item ordered to the tune of ~25%.

For strictly online orders, which use different services, the Chinese joint I go to gets charged $2 for every order. The way the owner did it was for the restaurant to pay a dollar and the customer to pay a dollar. Prices online are $1 higher than in the restaurant.
Oh wow. So in order for these restaurants to be listed on Doordash/Ubereats, they have to cough up 25% to the delivery service? Wow. I did not know that....seems kinda shitty. I just assumed the delivery fees were how these apps were making their money.

As far as the online ordering, I've not seen anywhere here doing that yet thankfully.
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