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re: Lets laugh at the Brits... scaring the public about marijuana
Posted on 3/21/19 at 1:07 pm to tommy2tone1999
Posted on 3/21/19 at 1:07 pm to tommy2tone1999
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Neither do laws for shoplifting, speeding, tax evasion etc. Should we make those acts legal too?
Do the existence of those laws in turn create a worse situation? Because that's the case with prohibition. It failed with alcohol, and it's failing with marijuana.
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 1:08 pm to hubertcumberdale
Really? Speeding possibly, but how is shoplifting and tax evasion harming another?
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 1:08 pm to tommy2tone1999
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but how is shoplifting and tax evasion harming another?
You don't think a shop owner is harmed by shoplifting?
Posted on 3/21/19 at 1:08 pm to tommy2tone1999
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Really? Speeding possibly, but how is shoplifting and tax evasion harming another? I'm also fond of this emoji too
Shoplifting; people stealing from people
Tax Evasion; Not paying taxes; the govt provides you with certain things like a military, water and sewage
This post was edited on 3/21/19 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 3/21/19 at 1:11 pm to TH03
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Do the existence of those laws in turn create a worse situation? Because that's the case with prohibition. It failed with alcohol, and it's failing with marijuana.
Your premise was that prohibition doesn't work (so why make laws against it). My counter was that there are laws for multiple crimes that aren't working yet we still have those laws. Now you're changing the argument. I love how defensive people get when they are met with opposition regarding pot legalization. It makes me
Posted on 3/21/19 at 1:12 pm to tommy2tone1999
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Your premise was that prohibition doesn't work (so why make laws against it). My counter was that there are laws for multiple crimes that aren't working yet we still have those laws. Now you're changing the argument. I love how defensive people get when they are met with opposition regarding pot legalization. It makes me
I think people just do not understand the logic of people being against marijuana legalization if they are ok with people consuming alcohol, since alcohol is much worse, ie people die everyday from it
Posted on 3/21/19 at 1:13 pm to CelticDog
You can be thrown in jail for making fun of Muslims in the uk. Who would think they’d be uptight about pot?
This post was edited on 3/21/19 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 3/21/19 at 1:13 pm to hubertcumberdale
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Shoplifting; people stealing from people
Tax Evasion; Not paying taxes; the govt provides you with certain things like a military, water and sewage
And how many people are killed in drug deals? I'd say those consequences are much worse that stealing from a store or lack of governmental tax revenue.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 1:16 pm to hubertcumberdale
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I think people just do not understand the logic of people being against marijuana legalization if they are ok with people consuming alcohol, since alcohol is much worse, ie people die everyday from it
Correction. People die everyday from the abuse and acute and over powering intoxication which leads me back to my earlier point. I can enjoy a dram of a great single-malt and not get drunk. Who smokes weed without the intention of getting high?
This post was edited on 3/21/19 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 3/21/19 at 1:18 pm to tommy2tone1999
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I can have a drink and barely feel the effects. Can you smoke a joint and say the same?
I would much rather have someone driving toward me in the oncoming lane who is buzzed on weed than drunk on alcohol. At least the pothead knows where the center line and the ditch on the side of the road are. They may have forgotten what road they are on, but that's the extent of it.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 1:19 pm to tommy2tone1999
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Your premise was that prohibition doesn't work (so why make laws against it). My counter was that there are laws for multiple crimes that aren't working yet we still have those laws. Now you're changing the argument.
I haven't changed anything. Prohibition doesn't work because it creates a bigger problem by forcing people to circumvent the law on the black market. Failed laws happen. That doesn't mean every law is a failure. To not understand this is to be very short sighted as best and blindly accepting of government direction at worst.
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I love how defensive people get when they are met with opposition regarding pot legalization. It makes me
I've had nothing but non defensive and rational discussion posts in this thread. You've had nothing remotely similar to an intelligent or rational thought that I've seen, yet you're under some delusion that you're doing well here.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 1:19 pm to tommy2tone1999
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And how many people are killed in drug deals?
Which is a direct result of prohibition.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 1:20 pm to mofungoo
quote:I would rather not have ANYONE driving toward me in the oncoming lane, but that's just me.
I would much rather have someone driving toward me in the oncoming lane who is buzzed on weed than drunk on alcohol.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 1:20 pm to tommy2tone1999
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Who smokes weed without the intention of getting high?
Who drinks without the intent of getting drunk?
See how silly this is? You don't just smoke one joint and become a mushroom.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 1:22 pm to TH03
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Which is a direct result of prohibition
Not really, greed is a human condition independent of the legal standing of a trade.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 1:24 pm to TH03
quote:I do. And so do millions of responsible people. My for not smoking pot, you sure are knowledgeable about it's effects and the intricacies of the drug trade.
Who drinks without the intent of getting drunk?
Posted on 3/21/19 at 1:24 pm to tommy2tone1999
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Not really, greed is a human condition independent of the legal standing of a trade.
Yeah millions of people get killed buying groceries every year.
No possible way that deaths in drug deals go wrong are caused by the utilization of the black market brought about by prohibition.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 1:27 pm to tommy2tone1999
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I do. And so do millions of responsible people
That's my whole point. That's a silly question to ask about alcohol or pot. Plenty use either for purposes other than getting drunk or high.
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My for not smoking pot, you sure are knowledgeable about it's effects and the intricacies of the drug trade.
Since when is knowledge a bad thing? You aren't helping your case here.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 1:33 pm to TH03
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Since when is knowledge a bad thing? You aren't helping your case here.
Oh I think my case has already been made. I'm not trying to convince stoners like you. Sorry, stoners like your "friends"
Posted on 3/21/19 at 1:35 pm to tommy2tone1999
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I can enjoy a dram of a great single-malt and not get drunk. Who smokes weed without the intention of getting high?
Bro thats awesome you can have a drink without getting drunk, I am so happy for you. But we cannot take your habits and extrapolate that to the entire population and say that is how everyone is. A lot of people (most people) drink to get a buzz atleast. Not many people enjoy the taste of straight liquor believe it or not. But thats great you do!
The effects of alcohol vs marijuana on people in terms of health and safety isnt even arguable
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