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Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:06 pm to bbap
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Right, thats why when the CDC said only 6% had no comorbidities you can't just take total deaths and multiple it by 6%. It's not that simple because some comorbidities you can easily live with.
Again...the 94% thing includes all COVID deaths that had another cause listed on the death certificate. Cardiac arrest is one of them. So is respiratory failure. All things that can be directly caused by the virus.
Someone could have no previous medical history whatsoever and get COVID and ultimately die cause their heart or lungs stopped. COVID AND cardiac arrest are listed on the death certificate and they become part of the 94%
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:07 pm to lsupride87
do nursing homes and hospitals report COVID deaths the same way?
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:07 pm to lsunurse
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Someone could have no previous medical history whatsoever and get COVID and ultimately die cause their heart or lungs stopped. COVID AND cardiac arrest are listed on the death certificate and they become part of the 94%
I'd love to see how many cases fit this description. I likely can count them on one hand.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:08 pm to lsunurse
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Also.....if you have a loved one that has cancer but was told they could live another 3-4 years with it. Then they get COVID and die. When they still had a few years of living ahead of them. You honestly gonna think that COVID had no part in their death?
I don't wish cancer or death on anyone but society cannot be shutdown for situations like this. It's an emotional argument that isn't applied to any other ailment or risk.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:08 pm to bbap
But many others still don’t.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:11 pm to Salmon
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do nursing homes and hospitals report COVID deaths the same way?
Meaning what? Do we test every resident that passes away? No. Do we assume a positive resident that passes is likely due to COVID-19? Yes. Do we get “more money” for positive COVID-19 tests? No. Do we get “more money” for COVID-19-related deaths? No.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:12 pm to AmosMosesAndTwins
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Meaning what? Do we test every resident that passes away? No. Do we assume a positive resident that passes is likely due to COVID-19? Yes. Do we get “more money” for positive COVID-19 tests? No. Do we get “more money” for COVID-19-related deaths? No.
meaning do hospitals report anyone that died with COVID as a COVID death as they are currently doing in nursing homes per LDH?
that was a very defensive answer to a genuine question
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:15 pm to lsunurse
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:15 pm to Salmon
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meaning do hospitals report anyone that died with COVID as a COVID death as they are currently doing in nursing homes per LDH?
that was a very defensive answer to a genuine question
It wasn’t defensive at all. Answer was as genuine as the question. There are a lot of misconceptions cast as fact by people with no relevant experience on here. Just seeking to shed some of those misconceptions.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:16 pm to lsupride87
I know if doesn't matter since we are on page 3 and everyone has their pitchforks, but this statement has been on their website and releases for months now.
OP must have finally read something other than the headlines.
OP must have finally read something other than the headlines.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:17 pm to AmosMosesAndTwins
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It wasn’t defensive at all.
well I don't know where the reimbursements stuff came from
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There are a lot of misconceptions cast as fact by people with no relevant experience on here. Just seeking to shed some of those misconceptions.
oh absolutely
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:18 pm to skullhawk
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I don't wish cancer or death on anyone but society cannot be shutdown for situations like this.
I’m still amazed at the amount of idiots that try to compare Cancer to Covid.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:18 pm to fightin tigers
quote:Which is all the more reason for people to be outraged. People have publicly denied this for months now as well
know if doesn't matter since we are on page 3 and everyone has their pitchforks, but this statement has been on their website and releases for months now.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:20 pm to skullhawk
I don’t think things have to all be shutdown
You can still be for basic public health measures and to lessen the spread and not want things to shut back down again.
You can still be for basic public health measures and to lessen the spread and not want things to shut back down again.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:21 pm to lsupride87
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Which is all the more reason for people to be outraged. People have publicly denied this for months now as well
No one who has actually read any of the releases should be in the blind.
But everyobe has a brother's nephew's sister who got out of line then got a positive covid test. Same people who know for a fact that their sister's cousin's nephew had all 8 of his positive tests counted.
The truth is bad enough without idiots spouting off conspiracy rumors.
There are still idiots that use the TD speadsheet as their most official way for tracking.
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:22 pm to lsunurse
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lsunurse
With a comment like that, it's no wonder our medical professionals cant diagnose easy shite anymore... y'all caught the brain dead.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:24 pm to fightin tigers
quote:What conspiracy here?
The truth is bad enough without idiots spouting off conspiracy rumors.
LDH is outright admitting ANY CAUSE OF DEATH WITH A POSTIVE RESULT COUNTS AS A COVID DEATH
You cant undermine how problematic that is when we are basing policy on these numbers
Well, I guess you can because here you are doing it
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:24 pm to LNCHBOX
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I'd love to see how many cases fit this description. I likely can count them on one hand.
If I remember correctly, when the CDC posted the numbers cardiac and respiratory failure made up like 60% of the co-morbidities.
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 2:24 pm
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