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Lawyers of the OT - Buying a Unit in a Bar

Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:49 am
Posted by MisslePig
Member since Jul 2018
1176 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:49 am
I won't own the bar, I'll be buying a unit in the bar. No ownership or right to direct use of assets. Just an "investor" of sorts.

My question is, what kind of liability could I be held responsible for if someone sues?
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40903 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:51 am to
quote:

My question is, what kind of liability could I be held responsible for if someone sues?


I would think your liability would still be a pro-rated equivalent to your share divided by the total number of shares regardless of any type of "silent ownership" agreement with regards to assets.
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57015 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:52 am to
I hope you are buying into some sort of corporation or the likes, especially if its a bar.


I have a friend who owns a chain of bars. One location got sued for over pouring on some bullshite. Now they dont have insurance on that particular location. Next lawsuit, ownership will be passed on
This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 11:14 am
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40903 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:59 am to
quote:

insurance


That's the real answer.
Posted by MisslePig
Member since Jul 2018
1176 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:08 am to
If I invested under an LLC would that make a difference?

What if I was buying a share of stock, could a stock holder be sued?
Posted by TheCurmudgeon
Not where I want to be
Member since Aug 2014
1481 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:11 am to
quote:

I'll be buying a unit in the bar. No ownership or right to direct use of assets. Just an "investor" of sorts.



What? What are you actually buying then? If you don't own a part of it, than you're just lending them money.
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
28291 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:11 am to
quote:

If I invested under an LLC would that make a difference?

What if I was buying a share of stock, could a stock holder be sued?


There are people called lawyers where they went to school to deal with this exact thing. Perhaps you should research what a lawyers is and consult one.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7954 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:13 am to
quote:

If I invested under an LLC would that make a difference?

Do you know what the "LL" in LLC means?

quote:

What if I was buying a share of stock, could a stock holder be sued?
The reason why corporations were created is to cut off liability of the shareholders.
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:24 am to
Just an fyi...start every "where da lawyers at" threads with a state.

Why would you want to be an owner that has absolutely no say in how the business operates? What happens if they wipe out all the profits each year, leaving you with nothing?

Without more information, it sounds like a loan, which the owners personally guarantee, might be your best bet. In louisiana, you could legally hit them at 12% interest.
Posted by xxGEAUXxx
minneapolis
Member since Dec 2012
1347 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:34 am to
Like any business venture or real estate venture. Talk to a lawyer. Could save you thousands.
Posted by tigersfirst
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
1064 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:37 am to
quote:

Do you know what the "LL" in LLC means?


quote:

The reason why corporations were created is to cut off liability of the shareholders.


Do you know what piercing the veil means?
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:42 am to
quote:

Do you know what piercing the veil means?


Shhhhhh. Attorneys have to eat too.

How else will they bill this cat $35,000 after he becomes personally liable for something that happens at the bar that he invested $3000 into?
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 12:00 pm to
Buying a Unit in a Bar

why would you, ever?

its a lose, lose, lose, lose, maybe break even if you are lucky thing
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24440 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:19 pm to
90% of the reason to own a bar is to own a bar so you and your friends have a cool place to hang out for cheap and brag about.

If you take that away, good luck with the whole ‘investment’ part of it. There’s no way I’d be a silent owner in a bar.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38534 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:25 pm to
Unrelated, but I have no idea how Tigerland bars don’t get sued regularly.
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