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Posted on 10/27/23 at 5:26 pm to crazy4lsu
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Your point that Democrats were the party of the 'poor people' isn't accurate,
Dude I’m speaking of Vietnam era, at farthest back WW2 era. I’m talking about JFK dems. Civil War era was never in my mind with my posts
Eta: If I made that confusing than my bad, I’ve responded or replied to multiple posters
This post was edited on 10/27/23 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 10/27/23 at 5:27 pm to Mushroom1968
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Dude I’m speaking of Vietnam era, at farthest back WW2 era
Again, this represents the New Deal Coalition, which I already referenced. Please read a history book. My god.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 5:29 pm to crazy4lsu
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Again, this represents the New Deal Coalition, which I already referenced. Please read a history book. My god.
JFK constantly spoke about the poor
Democrat candidates even had ads saying they were the party for the poor 
Posted on 10/27/23 at 5:30 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Latinos now outnumber non-Hispanic whites in Texas
it's their country
Posted on 10/27/23 at 5:32 pm to crazy4lsu
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Please read a history book
I’ve read many of them. What is it exactly you think I’m arguing?
Posted on 10/27/23 at 5:34 pm to Mushroom1968
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JFK constantly spoke about the poor Democrat candidates even had ads saying they were the party for the poor
Again, this is all part of the New Deal Coalition, which combined the Southern Democrats with the machine politics of Northeastern cities with Northeastern liberals (as well as liberals from the Midwest and West). You keep insisting on an insanely stupid point that you clearly don't understand. African-Americans were a highly sought after group, hence why the liberals started moving on Civil Rights, with Hubert Humphrey's inclusion of moving away from segregation included in the 1948 Democratic Party's platform.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 5:35 pm to crazy4lsu
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Again, this is all part of the New Deal Coalition, which combined the Southern Democrats with the machine politics of Northeastern cities with Northeastern liberals (as well as liberals from the Midwest and West). You keep insisting on an insanely stupid point that you clearly don't understand. African-Americans were a highly sought after group, hence why the liberals started moving on Civil Rights, with Hubert Humphrey's inclusion of moving away from segregation included in the 1948 Democratic Party's platform.
I understand all of this
None of this has to do with my point Posted on 10/27/23 at 5:36 pm to Mushroom1968
Whatever you say bub
Posted on 10/27/23 at 5:38 pm to Trevaylin
Most of the Tejanos I know are cowboy hat, boot wearing baws who hunt, fish and work hard. Good ol’ boys.
This post was edited on 10/27/23 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 10/27/23 at 5:40 pm to crazy4lsu
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Whatever you say bub
I don’t think you understand the point I was making earlier and apparently there was a complete misunderstanding somewhere. I’m just simply saying the D party from then and even 15 years ago is much different than now. And the D party back then did speak about poor people, I don’t understand your “counter” argument which is just irrelevant information most here already understand.
I’m saying they spoke about and to poor people and you keep yelling and telling me why they did. I already get that part, that’s why I’m saying it
Posted on 10/27/23 at 5:48 pm to Mushroom1968
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I’m just simply saying the D party from then and even 15 years ago is much different than now.
And I'm saying they aren't.
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And the D party back then did speak about poor people
They speak about poor people now too. It's just that we also have complete corporate capture of the Northeastern and Western wings of the party.
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I don’t understand your “counter” argument which is just irrelevant information most here already understand.
I am 100% that no person on this forum is talking about the Fourth Party System or would name drop Hubert Humphrey.
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I already get that part, that’s why I’m saying it
And I'm saying that the New Deal Coalition still exists except for the Southern whites. Unions, city machine politics, African-Americans, immigrants, etc., are still aligned with the same liberal groups that set the party's goals. It's also true that those groups don't have to be courted very much any more, for lots of reasons.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 5:48 pm to The Torch
Problem is, and I know this first hand. But the Dindus are corrupting the Latinos and showing them the ropes on how to bilk the system.
After Katrina, I had a contract to gut over 250 homes in NOLA so I had a ton of Latinos under my wing.
2 of them became close with me & some of the best dudes and hard workers on the planet and they were cousins.
Well, one of them started hooking up with some large Marge type of Dindus and she intro’d him to “free shite system” & before long, he fell victim to communism.
It will only be a matter of time where a majority of the immigrants act the same way, especially the 18-25 yo ex-cons sitting in hotels in NYC, it has already begun with their UN/NATO ATM cards, I-phones and room/board.
And disclaimer: my woman is an immigrant from Honduras 28 years ago, I can vouch that Latin folks are some of the best on the planet.
Mostly, they are hard working, dedicated, loyal, God Loving, family oriented.
And for those young bucks out there, if you’ve never had a Latina woman, they take care of their man and family/home in every sense of the word. I’ll NEVER go back to an American chick.
After Katrina, I had a contract to gut over 250 homes in NOLA so I had a ton of Latinos under my wing.
2 of them became close with me & some of the best dudes and hard workers on the planet and they were cousins.
Well, one of them started hooking up with some large Marge type of Dindus and she intro’d him to “free shite system” & before long, he fell victim to communism.
It will only be a matter of time where a majority of the immigrants act the same way, especially the 18-25 yo ex-cons sitting in hotels in NYC, it has already begun with their UN/NATO ATM cards, I-phones and room/board.
And disclaimer: my woman is an immigrant from Honduras 28 years ago, I can vouch that Latin folks are some of the best on the planet.
Mostly, they are hard working, dedicated, loyal, God Loving, family oriented.
And for those young bucks out there, if you’ve never had a Latina woman, they take care of their man and family/home in every sense of the word. I’ll NEVER go back to an American chick.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 5:50 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:This X 1000. Most of the blue collar baws here are Latino while most of the White dudes are out-of-towner techbros.
When I’m in Austin I have more in common with the average Latino than I do the average white person
Posted on 10/27/23 at 5:53 pm to RLDSC FAN
my subtle move on here starting to get yall to accuse me of being Mexican thereby absolutely Spanishing the frick out the the real oppressed,, but now since called me Mexican,, I am
Ole' puntas
Ole' puntas
Posted on 10/27/23 at 5:57 pm to crazy4lsu
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And I'm saying they aren't
We can disagree
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They speak about poor people now too
As I’ve said, they just aren’t good for poor people. Maybe back then they weren’t either though. I just feel back then it was about getting people out of poverty, I don’t Bethany to be the case today. We can disagree
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And I'm saying that the New Deal Coalition still exists except for the Southern whites. Unions, city machine politics, African-Americans, immigrants, etc., are still aligned with the same liberal groups that set the party's goals. It's also true that those groups don't have to be courted very much any more, for lots of reasons.
They are being courted though. I’ll admit I don’t know what city machine politics is. I don’t think the D party is good for minorities or legal immigrants, I just don’t. We can agree to disagree about all this. I was a life long democrat, in a union, dad is a democrat, to us the party has changed. All I can go is off my own perception, as can anyone else. There’s been a big shift imo the last 5-10 years.
It’s ok to disagree
There’s been a change with Republican Party also last 20 years. Again, I do think the D party still courts and “caters” to minorities and immigrants, I just don’t think they are a positive party for themPosted on 10/27/23 at 6:05 pm to Mushroom1968
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We can disagree
There's nothing to disagree about. The wing of the party that runs the party, which has been the liberal (as in they ascribe mostly to the type of type of social liberalism that developed in Britain, which combined classic liberalism with notions about the welfare state) wing of the party, has been consistent.
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As I’ve said, they just aren’t good for poor people. Maybe back then they weren’t either though.
Lol, they were about getting votes man.
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They are being courted though.
Nah not really.
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All I can go is off my own perception, as can anyone else.
Well thankfully, we have ways of operating outside our own perception by referencing data and the work of others. The structure of the Democratic Party has basically been unchanged except for losing their Southern wing after the Civil Rights Act.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 6:07 pm to Areddishfish
Hispanics are pretty based in general
The problem is when push comes to shove most people will vote for free shite every time
The problem is when push comes to shove most people will vote for free shite every time
Posted on 10/27/23 at 6:10 pm to crazy4lsu
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There's nothing to disagree about
There’s plenty to, sure we can
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Lol, they were about getting votes man
Agree
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Nah not really.
They are
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Well thankfully, we have ways of operating outside our own perception by referencing data and the work of others. The structure of the Democratic Party has basically been unchanged except for losing their Southern wing after the Civil Rights Act.
We vote off our perceptions, my post earlier was based off that. Structure has changed, or at least the beliefs have drastically changed last decade or so.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 6:11 pm to Mushroom1968
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We vote off our perceptions, my post earlier was based off that.
What?
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Structure has changed, or at least the beliefs have drastically changed last decade or so.
Again what?
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