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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:28 pm to
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The Russian landing ships have made moves toward Odessa today after several days of holding.


Just curious where you are finding this info
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:29 pm to
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No idea who Bill is but it’s not like they’ve got the luxury of time lol. I wouldn’t be doing much different in their shoes.

They don't have the luxury of time which makes it odd that they wouldn't specify prior military experience when calling for foreign volunteers.

I guess warm bodies are the biggest asset.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:29 pm to
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I'd rather watch you cry about getting downvoted tbh
I’d rather have mature and productive discussions, yet here we are.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:29 pm to
I don't think a reporter getting killed is needed to show Putin is committing war crimes. The pregnant woman and her unborn child dying after the children's hospital was bombed is making the rounds right now and is far more horrifying.
This post was edited on 3/15/22 at 2:32 pm
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:31 pm to
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Bill Roggio said the Ukrainians are giving recruits just three days of training.


What the hell would they expect? They are going into an active war zone where one nation is fighting for it's very existence. They don't have time to practice maneuvers.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:31 pm to
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Just curious where you are finding this info

Here's one report:

@CovertShores
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***BREAKING***

Substantial #Russian Navy force, including landing ships, advancing on Odessa area today. Seen 09:47 UTC in satellite imagery

Found together with @detresfa_ LINK


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**BREAKING**

Russian Landing Ships seen heading towards Odessa, today. Now on Naval News. This is fluid, but may update as we learn more.

LINK
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:32 pm to
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I don't think a reporter getting killed is needed to show Putin is committing war crimes. The pregnant woman and her unborn child dying after the children's hospital was bombed is making the rounds right now and is far horrifying.
Agreed, although I find it curious that neither the Biden administration nor the majority of western leaders have been willing to use the term “war crime.” Even in reference to that incident.

War crimes are generally a matter of intent or proportionality, not wether or not a pregnant was killed.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:39 pm to
Amphibious operations are one of the most complicated operations in warfare. Judging by Russia’s performance to date, I seriously doubt they can pull of a successful assault on an urban environment from the sea.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:43 pm to
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I'm interested to see if the Russians will attempt a contested amphibious landing at Odessa.
This would be a huge mistake if they do it. Their losses would be crippling and even if they succeeded with a bridgehead, the resulting logistics demand would be unsustainable. But Putin's gonna Putin, so let's watch and see.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:44 pm to
US Army Volunteer fighting in Ukraine interview: CNN
Posted by Palantir
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:46 pm to
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I’d rather have mature and productive discussions, yet here we are.
Cool, next time not leading with
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because most here think with their emotions like a bunch of damn teenage girls
Would probably garner a better response for your debate on your opinion
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:50 pm to
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I'm interested to see if the Russians will attempt a contested amphibious landing at Odessa.

You have to think they want to take and secure Mariupol prior to making a landing, but that is dragging on. They can't really abandon Mariupol in effort to link up with the landing troops and leave their rear exposed. They have to take and control Mariupol before they make that move. If not, it will be nasty for them.

The Russian landing ships have made moves toward Odessa today after several days of holding.


Ukraine has a homebuilt antiship missile called the Neptune that's based on a Russian design. As of last year 24 were operational. If the Russians haven't been able to account for them they may be reluctant to attempt a landing.
This post was edited on 3/15/22 at 2:53 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:52 pm to
Or people could actually respond to my posts with their own cognitive thoughts as opposed to hitting a downvote button. Even still you haven’t replied to any of my posts about my thoughts or analyses of the war.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:53 pm to
First action on Odessa:

@sentdefender
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Russian Naval and Air Forces are reportedly conducting Missile Strikes in and around the Coastal city of Odessa, the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense claims that 90 Missiles were fired in total with multiple being intercepted by Air Defense Systems or Landing Outside of the City. LINK


I really don't want to see that city get destroyed, but I guess war does what war does.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:55 pm to
I've seen pictures. It looks like a beautiful resort area.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:56 pm to
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Amphibious operations are one of the most complicated operations in warfare. Judging by Russia’s performance to date, I seriously doubt they can pull of a successful assault on an urban environment from the sea.

They may be looking to soften Odessa prior to attempting a landing. They don't have any support to link with at this point. We'll probably just see their Navy shell them and bombing runs from the air.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:57 pm to
A few dozen Javelins could do some work on Russian landing craft.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:59 pm to
@idreesali114 (Reuters)
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A senior U.S. defense official says 20 days into the invasion, Russia had made little to no progress in the last 24 horus and forces still about 15-20 km outside of Kyiv city center.


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The official says Russia has now fired more than 950 missiles against Ukrainian targets.


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The official adds that the U.S. has not seen movement of Russian forces from elsewhere in Russia to reinforce troops in Ukraine.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 3:01 pm to
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A few dozen Javelins could do some work on Russian landing craft.


I wonder if the Russians have had any Naval support in Mariupol? I haven't made it a point to look for reports of it. Looks like those efforts will be reserved for Odessa.

Meaning shelling, not landing.
This post was edited on 3/15/22 at 3:02 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 3:03 pm to
Maybe China told them they had to prove they were capable of winning a battle before they get any aid.
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