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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 8/13/22 at 4:05 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 8/13/22 at 4:05 pm to
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You ukraine girls sure do get your feelings hurt easily.


Would you like an autograph from the Ghost himself? Would that cheer your up



No that would not cheer anyone up, but this is going to depress you.

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Russian army command leaves Kherson.
LINK

Looks like the Russians are getting ready to run.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/13/22 at 4:06 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 2:34 pm
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 8/13/22 at 4:07 pm to
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Looks like the Russians are getting ready to run.



Drone Kid got em

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/13/22 at 4:07 pm to
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Drone Kid got em

Dudes a beast.

Ukraine has so many special individuals who do heroic things.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 8/13/22 at 4:08 pm to
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Looks like the Russians are getting ready to run.
Damn, looks like someone is going to be deep in the Popov tonight.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36502 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 4:08 pm to
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Dudes a beast.



360 no scopes for dayz
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/13/22 at 4:11 pm to
Vatniks on the run.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/13/22 at 4:12 pm to
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you’d say I was completely insane.
It’s always good to find common ground.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/13/22 at 4:14 pm to
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Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/13/22 at 4:15 pm to
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I fully subscribe to this theory from Carlin
almost everyone does. I’ll let you try to figure out the problem with that.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45728 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 4:16 pm to
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Looks like the Russians are getting ready to run.
Damn, looks like someone is going to be deep in the Popov tonight.


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According to Mykolayiv Oblast Governor Vitaly Kim, the entire Russian command staff is evacuating across the Dnipro River, (from right-bank Dnipro to left-bank). That means leaving the city of Kherson.


LINK

Smotri, Ivan begayet!
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 4:18 pm to
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And you are for Ukraine.


I’ve not given some arbitrary fixed acceptable amount to spend on this conflict. What I have done is point out it is quite possibly our most cost effective defense spend in history to have so much of what we’ve treated as a near peer adversary for 75 years destroyed and shown inept.

We’ve not spent one American life, a vast amount of the aid “money” has been stockpiled old equipment domestically that will be backfilled with modern more effective equipment which improves our own defense capability (something Trump greatly supported), we’ve got numerous Eastern European countries donating their old Soviet equipment which will be backfilled with more modern American equipment, which equals more American jobs and economic growth, on top of the obvious security benefit of those closest to the problem being better equipped to fight it in the future. Then we’ve got the delay of the Chinese takeover of Taiwan which 6 months ago felt semi-imminent.
Posted by bad93ex
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Posted on 8/13/22 at 4:18 pm to
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38420 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 4:20 pm to
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He’d be on an endless bender of posting about how Biden is directly responsible for China invading Taiwan


Well if this happens, I will hold Biden accountable since there’s no way in hell they’d do that with Trump in charge. If Biden or Kamala is in office when it happens, then yes I will blame them for it at least partially. I also think Putin wouldn’t have invaded Ukraine had Trump still been in office, so I do indeed still hold Biden indirectly responsible for this, especially when he said he wouldn’t do anything to Russia over a minor incursion.

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WWIII just started


Yeah, go on…

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manufacturers are having bring out the old cotton gins again because all of American manufacturing is crippled without Taiwanese semi-conductors.


Or more like shite from the early 2000s, but some variation of that is correct.

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6 months in he still can’t comprehend the money and effort spent here has most likely directly delayed or maybe even prevented the expected Chinese takeover of Taiwan which he cares so deeply about.


I do comprehend that actually which is why I was for the initial checks and supplies we sent them.

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He’s willing to spend infinite dollars and lives for Taiwan after they’re invaded be zero dollars to prevent it.


The point is hyperinflation will occur should China invade Taiwan and the supply chain would be fricked beyond repair should that occur. It is apples and oranges comparing it to the invasion of Ukraine. With Ukraine it is simply an energy and food disruption of the supply line. With Taiwan it is the supply chain completely collapsing. The point is the cash is irrelevant when it comes to Taiwan, while it is still quite relevant when it comes to Ukraine. Ukraine can be salvaged, but an invasion of Taiwan could not.


cliffs:

Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45728 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 4:23 pm to
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The ???? army reports that they have targeted and destroyed the bridge in Nova Kakhovka. This will severely restrict the Russian’s ability to bring in reinforcements, supplies and heavy equipment and ammunition. Bad day for the ~25.000 russian soldiers west of the Dnipro.
LINK

I wonder if the Russians can evacuate those baws quick, fast, and in a hurry. Putin has to realize that he cannot afford to lose 25,000 troops in Kherson. Those troops are the only forces the Russians have between the Ukrainians and Crimea.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36502 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 4:25 pm to
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Putin has to realize that he cannot afford to lose 25,000 troops


Ghost, Drone Kid and Model Sniper took them all out already
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45728 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 4:26 pm to
LINK

Just thought that I would leave this here.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 4:27 pm to
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Well if this happens, I will hold Biden accountable since there’s no way in hell they’d do that with Trump in charge. If Biden or Kamala is in office when it happens, then yes I will blame them for it at least partially.


Yet you believe it would have happened had “Biden” not supported Ukraine so much.

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I also think Putin wouldn’t have invaded Ukraine had Trump still been in office, so I do indeed still hold Biden indirectly responsible for this, especially when he said he wouldn’t do anything to Russia over a minor incursion.


Because Trump swung his dick in foreign policy both by blowing shite up when needed (Afghanistan, ISIS, Iran) and bringing diplomacy and cooperation where it hadn’t been before in a LONG time (NK, ME coalition). Had Putin tested Trump anyway he’d have likely taken much more severe and direct action than the current admin, which you would hate even more if you were being consistent.

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The point is hyperinflation will occur should China invade Taiwan and the supply chain would be fricked beyond repair should that occur.


If hyperinflation occurs our own federal govt and federal reserve will be infinitely more responsible than Taiwanese conflict.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 4:27 pm to
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Then we’ve got the delay of the Chinese takeover of Taiwan which 6 months ago felt semi-imminent.


The world changes, I'm not always a fan of how it does, but its just a reality of life. If that occurs, so be it.

Again, my only concern is our involvement and why we are pushing so much bullshite through official outlets. That would apply anywhere. We aren't going to stop Russia, we aren't stopping China. The best we can do is prolong the misery through our support.

I don't think that's a controversial stance.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38420 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 4:29 pm to
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Ghost, Drone Kid and Model Sniper took them all out already
This is what passes for humor among your comrades, OML. Just something else to consider.
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