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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:36 pm to northshorebamaman
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:36 pm to northshorebamaman
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don't see this as a net positive for the effectiveness of our military, which, after all, is the point of having a military. It's not a finishing school.
It's all in the mentality of our citizens. Israel has mandatory 2 years when you turn 18. The kids there look forward to being part of the military and the right to defend their country.
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Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:39 pm to Lakeboy7
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would be a disaster. You need
No it wouldn't because you don't get to lay around and do nothing. You will follow orders and learn to earn your living and become a real adult.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:41 pm to OMLandshark
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In addition to if I’m not mistaken.
A) You are pissed off about something that you aren't even sure about because it might possibly be
B) The US hasn't even spent 50% of the allocation as of today, so still FAR less than Russia's budget in 2018 as you alluded to.
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It follows previous transfers of $1.7 billion in July and $1.3 billion in June, USAID said. Washington has also provided billions of dollars in military and security support. The Pentagon announced a $1 billion arms aid package on Monday. read more
Overall, the United States has contributed more than $18 billion to Ukraine this year.
Article posted from today
Also less than what was spent in Afghanistan
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Since invading Afghanistan in 2001, the United States has spent $2.313 trillion on the war, which includes operations in both Afghanistan and Pakistan
LINK
So an annual basis that's basically $110B so we are just over 10% of that.
This post was edited on 8/8/22 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:41 pm to OMLandshark
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I’m not completely opposed to the idea of serving your country in some way for two years. That would be better than sending your kid to college.
Probably not an outlandish idea. I doubt most kids know what they want to do when they grow up at 18. I still don't.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:41 pm to heatom2
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Sounds like freedom. ?
The reason you have freedom is because of those that served in the military. You sure didn't earn it.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Probably not an outlandish idea. I doubt most kids know what they want to do when they grow up at 18. I still don't.
I agree and also think if you're getting welfare you should be doing something for society even if its picking up trash.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:45 pm to OMLandshark
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It’d put people in better shape, which if you haven’t noticed is a major problem in this country.
It would put millions on disability for life, which if you haven't noticed is a major problem in this country. What exactly do you think is going to happen when 70% of the kids that show up for training are fat asses that haven't went outside or played a sport more demanding than xbox in their entire lives.
This post was edited on 8/8/22 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:45 pm to SOSFAN
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Israel has mandatory 2 years when you turn 18. The kids there look forward to being part of the military and the right to defend their country.
During their last mobilization of reservist in 2006 more than half their reservist did not report.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:52 pm to OldmanBeasley
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Any updates on the actual war?
The biggest thing that seems to be happening is Russia shifting units from the Donbas to the South. Ukraine is doing probing attacks but mostly trying to interdict Russian resupply.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:59 pm to northshorebamaman
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This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:10 pm to OMLandshark
quote:We lost 4 guys in my basic training platoon to injury and these were motivated, non-obese, kids that wanted to be there. All those guys are getting checks for life for a couple weeks of service. The military isn't magic. You send a bunch of unmotivated fatties with low-density bones to boot camp and a shite ton of them are going to hurt themselves. That's not even getting into the psychological stuff with all the kids on medication (who you want to put on a range).
They’re going to get in shape.
Or I guess you could just water down the training so no one gets hurt.
And if your response is "not everyone needs strenuous training" then you should be arguing for some kind of non-military service like picking up trash on I-10, not mandatory military service.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:18 pm to AGGIES
Russian Military fits the old football axiom...
Built like Tarzan
Plays like Jane
Built like Tarzan
Plays like Jane
Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:22 pm to TigerDoc
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quote:Any updates on the actual war? The biggest thing that seems to be happening is Russia shifting units from the Donbas to the South. Ukraine is doing probing attacks but mostly trying to interdict Russian resupply.
That and a major Russian break through in the East wiping out 300,000 Ukranian soldiers without hurting one civilian.
I know that because I read it right here.
But seriously it seems the modern weaponry the west had given Ukraine and Ukraine’s tactical moves in the South are working slowly but surely.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:36 pm to northshorebamaman
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You send a bunch of unmotivated fatties with low-density bones to boot camp and a shite ton of them are going to hurt themselves. That's not even getting into the psychological
You keep putting the failures back to day 1 of boot camp.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:41 pm to SOSFAN
quote:I'm not talking about kids that were no-go's at a station. I'm referring to actual injuries. Torn acl's, broken ankles, cardiac events, kids falling off of obstacles and breaking their necks (which happened to one of the 4 kids from my platoon that I referenced) and your answer is to just recycle them?
You keep putting the failures back to day 1 of boot camp.
This post was edited on 8/8/22 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:51 pm to northshorebamaman
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Ukraine says it caught hitmen on Russian mission to kill top officials
KYIV, Aug 8 (Reuters) - Ukraine arrested two people working for Russian intelligence services who planned to kill Ukraine's defence minister and the head of its military intelligence agency, Ukraine's domestic security service, the SBU, said on Monday.
The Security Service of Ukraine foiled the plot by the Russian GRU military intelligence agency to use a sabotage group to carry out three murders including that of a prominent Ukrainian activist, the agency said in a statement.
The assertions could not be independently verified by Reuters.
The suspects, one a resident of the eastern Luhansk region held by Russia-backed separatists and the other a resident of Ukraine's capital Kyiv, were promised up to $150,000 by Russian handlers for the murder of each of their targets, the SBU said.
The man from Luhansk region entered Ukraine from Belarus and was detained in the city of Kovel in northwestern Ukraine along with the Kyiv resident, the statement said.
Reuters
Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:57 pm to northshorebamaman
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not talking about kids that were no-go's at a station
I'm not talking about kids that tried and got hurt. We can use them in administration.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 4:08 pm to northshorebamaman
There was more than one fat boy who went through basic training back in the days when males were drafted. I was shocked at a few school mates several years older than me who made it.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 4:10 pm to SOSFAN
quote:You could. And you'd still be paying them disability for life in exchange for two years of service in which they never even learned the "discipline" you point to due to inability to even complete the training. So what's the point again?
I'm not talking about kids that tried and got hurt. We can use them in administration.
This is my last post on the subject because this is a clear derail and it's never going to happen anyway but some of you put way too much faith in the military's ability to turn this:
into a soldier in 6-13 weeks. This isn't WW2 with a bunch of depression era farm boys lined up. This country is fat and out of shape as frick and it's a societal issue that needs to be addressed before you thrust them into training that most of them are physically and mentally unprepared for.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 4:18 pm to Lakeboy7
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don't see this as a net positive for the effectiveness of our military,
It would be a disaster. You need people that want to be there.
Not only that, it would suck at least a trillion dollars per year out of the US economy (I ran the numbers in detail about 1,000 pages ago). But people who think we can't afford $40 billion are now in favor of burning $1 trillion per year for something that would do our military no good at all. Really dumb idea.
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