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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:53 pm to
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:53 pm to
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Former USMC Recon and SEALs are lying after being there for humanitarian aid?


Link? They likely don’t know what they’re talking about to be honest.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:53 pm to
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heard anything baw?


Nah but i just got back CONUS a couple days ago and have about 10K emails to clear out lol
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:54 pm to
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Nah but i just got back CONUS a couple days ago and have about 10K emails to clear out lol



let me know if you have heard anything
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:56 pm to
Also, the deNazification meant only a minority of the Azov battalion which was 500 members total. The battalion kept Russia from taking Mariupol since 2014 until this year. So I guess that is why Putain labeled them all as Nazis for thwarting his efforts for the better part of a decade and then threw in lots of people for shiites and giggles and ruff fish, LW, Stupidam, etc... benefit.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 5:02 pm to
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is not reporting losses of men and equipment on the Ukrainian side.


Just came across their reasoning. Makes sense.

Defense Ministry explains why it keeps Ukrainian military casualty numbers secret
14 July, 09:30 PM

The New Voice of Ukraine
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 5:06 pm to
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Just came across their reasoning. Makes sense. Defense Ministry explains why it keeps Ukrainian military casualty numbers secret


It’s not reported by any western sources either. Which makes the western reporting on the war nothing more than pro Ukrainian propaganda. If the public starts to see massive Ukrainian losses they will lose faith and the will to continue to support the war effort.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 5:10 pm to
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It’s not reported by any western sources either.


I guess you didn't read the article - the Ukrainian government is not releasing the info. Has nothing to do with the western media.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 5:31 pm to
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Has nothing to do with the western media.


The western media does not report on Ukrainian casualties. Which part is confusing for you?
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 5:32 pm to
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Another crazy one. Where did you find 1 million ready to fight with Russia? Again in an English-language source?


The Times of London

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Do you believe him?


Yes and no. Ukraine started the war with 200,000 active troops and 900,000 reserve troops. So that makes 1.1 million troops. Ukraine started mobilization of its reserves in back in February. So it is possible that it has mobilized all of its reserves and when you add in the reserves to the prewar armed forces and subtract the losses that Ukraine has sustained it does add up to over a million troops. However, even if the defense minister is bluffing on the number, which he likely it is, having 750,000 or more troops is highly likely. No matter how you look at it, Ukraine has a lot more troops ready for combat than Russia does at the moment.

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In Kyiv, random men are already being caught on the street, who are running away from the draft.


Well its obvious that you get your news from Russian propaganda. Ukraine has not started drafting civilians yet. It banned MAMs from leaving the country in case it needed to draft, but so far it has just been calling up its reserve personel.

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In the territories liberated from the Kyiv regime, queues are lining up for a change of citizenship. Here is a photo of an urn next to such a center. On the photo Ukrainian passports


You mean the parts of Ukraine that have been occupied for months but have only been able to convince less than 100 Ukrainian civilians to accept a Russian passport?
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 5:40 pm to
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The western media does not report on Ukrainian casualties. Which part is confusing for you?


Your reading comprehension sucks. To repeat - the Ukrainian govt does not release military casualty info for a reason. Therefore the media does not report numbers they don't have. Is that simple enough for you?

The western media reports civilian casualties on a daily basis.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 5:42 pm to
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Therefore the media does not report numbers they don't have.


It’s called journalism. They can get the numbers if they want to. They choose not to because they are playing the propaganda war for the Ukrainians, most likely at the direction of western intelligence agencies. I’m not claiming that it’s even a bad thing. It’s part of the war effort. But there is no harm in recognizing what’s happening.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 5:47 pm to
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They choose not to because they are playing the propaganda war for the Ukrainians, most likely at the direction of western intelligence agencies.


You are welcome to your conspiratorial hypothesis.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 5:50 pm to
There’s nothing conspiratorial about it man. It’s not some crazy idea that intelligence agencies use the media for their own ends.

Do you really believe that Ukraine is just going through this war casualty free? Come on dude. Even the idea that civilian casualties are even comparable to Ukraine’s military casualties is asinine and laughable. No sane or semi non retarded person believes that.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 5:55 pm to
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Do you really believe that Ukraine is just going through this war casualty free?


Hyperbole noted.

By the way The Ukrainians admitted to averaging several hundred KIA per day at the height of the fighting a few weeks ago.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 6:00 pm to
That’s not sustainable from a Ukrainian standpoint.

Ukraine is fighting this war with western NATO doctrine. While that’s caused a lot of Russian casualties it also means that Ukrainian losses are less easily replaced. NATO doctrine calls for years of training and experience to be able to operate high tech equipment. Every experienced Ukrainian soldier that gets killed or wounded cannot easily be replaced by a fresh recruit with a few weeks of training. Russian doctrine is massive artillery followed by human wave attacks with little regard for a casualties. Bullet sponges are easy to replace.

Putin has already said he’s going to fight to the end for Ukraine. Once he declares general mobilization it’s over for the Ukrainians unless there is a coup in Moscow.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 6:10 pm to
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Putin has already said he’s going to fight to the end for Ukraine. Once he declares general mobilization it’s over for the Ukrainians unless there is a coup in Moscow.


I don't make predictions on how this will play out.
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 6:11 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 6:33 pm to
Neanderthal Russians just bombing City centers again
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 7:10 pm to
200,000 volunteered the first couple of days with zero military experience.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 7:12 pm to
Putain (cajun intended) has not declared war. He has cancelled the votes for occupied territory in Ukraine, Georgia and Azerbijian. That would likely anger Xi and the Mullahs.

Only a declaration of war would allow general mobilization of Russia's reserves, the active military has already been heavily involved.
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 7:14 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 7:28 pm to
The Russians have taken Soledar.
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