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re: Largest Dam in the Country at risk to fail EDIT- no immediate danger

Posted on 2/12/17 at 10:47 pm to
Posted by LSUIZSEC
TX
Member since Jun 2013
182 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 10:47 pm to
Yep 17 yrs and counting.
Posted by CaliforniaTiger
The Land of Fruits and Nuts
Member since Dec 2007
5323 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 10:48 pm to
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22354 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

Yep 17 yrs and counting.


Really? I had no idea.
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22354 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 10:59 pm to
quote:

Yep 17 yrs and counting.


What is your MOS. What base are you posting from?
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22354 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 11:07 pm to
I know you are military.
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22354 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 11:11 pm to
Would you like me to guess your Branch?
Posted by CaliforniaTiger
The Land of Fruits and Nuts
Member since Dec 2007
5323 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 11:14 pm to
I bet he's at Beale Air Force base
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22354 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 11:17 pm to
I was 11B/11M. My Son want's to do the same. I'm against it.
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22354 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

bet he's at Beale Air Force base



My Dad was Air Force. Greatest Man that I've ever known.
This post was edited on 2/12/17 at 11:21 pm
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
81711 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 11:37 pm to
quote:

NOW: Water level has dropped below 901ft (900.70). Helicopters are now dropping rocks on emergency spillway base.
Posted by CaliforniaTiger
The Land of Fruits and Nuts
Member since Dec 2007
5323 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 11:39 pm to
Good news
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19245 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 11:43 pm to
Got another round of
Precipitation forecasted starting Wednesday
Posted by CaliforniaTiger
The Land of Fruits and Nuts
Member since Dec 2007
5323 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 11:46 pm to
Dropping about 4" per hour.

We have more rain coming Wednesday into Thursday.
Posted by CaliforniaTiger
The Land of Fruits and Nuts
Member since Dec 2007
5323 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 11:50 pm to
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16291 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:25 am to
Thread title is confusing, Dam is currently not at risk. It's the spillways that are an issue.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53310 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:57 am to
LINK

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More than a decade ago, federal and state officials and some of California’s largest water agencies rejected concerns that the massive earthen spillway at Oroville Dam — at risk of collapse Sunday night and prompting the evacuation of 185,000 people — could erode during heavy winter rains and cause a catastrophe.

Three environmental groups — the Friends of the River, the Sierra Club and the South Yuba Citizens League — filed a motion with the federal government on Oct. 17, 2005, as part of Oroville Dam’s relicensing process, urging federal officials to require that the dam’s emergency spillway be armored with concrete, rather than remain as an earthen hillside.


quote:

The groups filed the motion with FERC, the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission. They said that the dam, built and owned by the state of California, and finished in 1968, did not meet modern safety standards because in the event of extreme rain and flooding, fast-rising water would overwhelm the main concrete spillway, then flow down the emergency spillway, and that could cause heavy erosion that would create flooding for communities downstream, but also could cause a failure, known as “loss of crest control.”

“A loss of crest control could not only cause additional damage to project lands and facilities but also cause damages and threaten lives in the protected floodplain downstream,” the groups wrote.

FERC rejected that request, however, after the state Department of Water Resources, and the water agencies that would likely have had to pay the bill for the upgrades, said they were unnecessary. Those agencies included the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California, which provides water to 19 million people in Los Angeles, San Diego and other areas, along with the State Water Contractors, an association of 27 agencies that buy water from the state of California through the State Water Project. The association includes the Metropolitan Water District, Kern County Water Agency, the Santa Clara Valley Water District and the Alameda County Water District.

Federal officials at the time said that the emergency spillway was designed to handle 350,000 cubic feet per second and the concerns were overblown.

“It is important to recognize that during a rare event with the emergency spillway flowing at its design capacity, spillway operations would not affect reservoir control or endanger the dam,” wrote John Onderdonk, a senior civil engineer with FERC, in the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission’s San Francisco Office, in a July 27, 2006, memo to his managers.


The environmentalists were right.
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11732 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:32 am to


Impending doom... but still time for some mudding!!!

I kid
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11732 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:35 am to
quote:

Thread title is confusing, Dam is currently not at risk. It's the spillways that are an issue.

quote:

Dam Guide



Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:41 am to
But yet Ca governor wants help from Trump, but two weeks ago gave Trump all kinds of hell. Like Trump should rush in and help.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:46 am to
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But yet Ca governor wants help from Trump, but two weeks ago gave Trump all kinds of hell. Like Trump should rush in and help


How fricking partisan is this douche
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