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re: Lafayette Toll Loop - public meeting 2/28/19

Posted on 2/20/19 at 10:34 am to
Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 10:34 am to
quote:

If Hwy 90 from I-10 to New Orleans (I-49 South) is ever completely Interstate grade, I believe a lot of people would pay a few bucks to get to NOLA without crossing the basin bridge and going thru Baton Rouge


I agree completely. On the flip side, for the everyday local traveler to and from work, I'm pretty certain that nobody will pay that.

That's even IF that initial amount mentioned is actually implemented. It wouldn't impact me either way unless I would decide to travel that stretch just to do so.
Posted by litenin
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
2350 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 10:35 am to
I go back and forth on your comment that 'It's just land, it's just a house'. While I sort of agree, I also feel a bit of an emotional connection to my parent's house that was built in the 1870s and has been in the family since then. It would be difficult to lose that by choice (selling) but even more difficult with no choice (Loop).
Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 10:42 am to
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I go back and forth on your comment that 'It's just land, it's just a house'.


Today's thinking has no values or morals. It's a what have you done for me lately attitude. Everyone will say "it's just land" until they want to purchase land and there's nothing available to purchase because it's all owned by businesses or the government scooped it up forcefully. I like having land and I like not having too many people around me and my home/property.

Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40084 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 10:43 am to
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Not even remotely close to being reasonable for that distance. You think people are going to pay $25.00-$30.00 x's 2 per week to travel on that? You're retarded.

You do understand (no you actually don't) that "per pop" simply means each time a vehicle passes through a toll booth, such as on the Beltway in Houston or TX99. Since you want to compare "miles", how many miles is the Beltway and or TX99 (what's completed thus far)?
Now how many miles is this so called Lafayette bypass supposed to be?
The point you're obviously missing, knucklehead, is that even though it would cost $4-$5.00 "a pop" to travel that bypass, nobody in their right frame of mind will pay that EVEN if it's just a one time charge of $4-$5.00 per entry onto that bypass. Now it's even more stupid if there were to be multiple tool booths/entry points within that bypass at $4-$5.00 a pop. No matter how many times you want to compare, it's not apples to apples.

So please prove how you can guarantee that I don't know what I'm talking about. Apparently it is you that lacks comprehension.


If you looked at my post I broke down a 25 mile round trip on the PGBT in DFW which I go through 2 Main Toll Posts and 2 ramp toll posts.

25 miles = ~5 bucks.

Not that I expect anyone from LA to understand how Texas tolls work but to put it in perspective:


You have two types of booths. Ramp and Main.

Each booth has a toll, ramps are usually something like 30 cents to 50 cents. The Main Tolls are the dollar + booths but also represent the completion of one segment of the tollway. NTTA up here expands/replaces by segment.

So, for instance, the 4 or 5 he's talking about is to travel to full extension or all segments of the Laffy Toll Loop.

You may claim that's insane or whatever, but again I pay ~5 bucks a day to take the PGBT up here round trip. In return, I get a clean massive highway that stays ahead of the traffic game and I can get up to speeds of 85 on.

Win/Win for everyone.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32535 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 10:44 am to
quote:

I go back and forth on your comment that 'It's just land, it's just a house'.


I guess it's all perspective. Once your family home floods or gets blown away by storm, you realize its the people that matter. A house is just a house.

Would it be nice to have a bunch of family 'heirlooms" back? Sure/Maybe, but in the end they are things. By the time my kids would get them, they have no worth to them beyond the fact that they are old and belonged to a family member.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40084 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 10:44 am to
quote:

Today's thinking has no values or morals. It's a what have you done for me lately attitude. Everyone will say "it's just land" until they want to purchase land and there's nothing available to purchase because it's all owned by businesses or the government scooped it up forcefully. I like having land and I like not having too many people around me and my home/property.



I think you are having issues understanding what urban sprawls are and why they happen.

Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11480 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 10:58 am to
There is no sense in having a discussion with you. You seem to be unstable.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11480 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 10:58 am to
quote:

If you looked at my post I broke down a 25 mile round trip on the PGBT in DFW which I go through 2 Main Toll Posts and 2 ramp toll posts.

25 miles = ~5 bucks.

Not that I expect anyone from LA to understand how Texas tolls work but to put it in perspective:


You have two types of booths. Ramp and Main.

Each booth has a toll, ramps are usually something like 30 cents to 50 cents. The Main Tolls are the dollar + booths but also represent the completion of one segment of the tollway. NTTA up here expands/replaces by segment.

So, for instance, the 4 or 5 he's talking about is to travel to full extension or all segments of the Laffy Toll Loop.

You may claim that's insane or whatever, but again I pay ~5 bucks a day to take the PGBT up here round trip. In return, I get a clean massive highway that stays ahead of the traffic game and I can get up to speeds of 85 on.

Win/Win for everyone.


Thank you for explaining.
Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 1:33 pm to
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So, for instance, the 4 or 5 he's talking about is to travel to full extension or all segments of the Laffy Toll Loop.


You, as well, do understand that initial figures were for $4-$5.00 PER TOLL BOOTH, correct? Would you be willing to traverse the route you said you do and pay $4-$5.00 PER TOLL BOOTH?

I know full well what it costs to travel on toll roads in Texas.

What one gets relative to highways in Texas does not equal anything in the same universe here in Louisiana. Louisiana highways are garbage. I travel BOTH states and see this regularly.

Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 1:34 pm to
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lsu13lsu
Because you're hard headed and you took what I said and twisted it to fit your narrative. You're not unstable but insecure...........


Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 1:40 pm to
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Thank you for explaining.


What he should've done was explained that whole spiel to you because you totally did not understand at all what I was talking about and decided to interject yourself like an asshat.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40084 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 1:45 pm to
quote:


You, as well, do understand that initial figures were for $4-$5.00 PER TOLL BOOTH, correct? Would you be willing to traverse the route you said you do and pay $4-$5.00 PER TOLL BOOTH?


You are now arguing for the sake of arguing, but can you point to me where in any article it states that and how many toll "booths" (they are not actually booths but electronic readers now) will be installed? And where it says it will cost 4-5 dollars per hit?

Posted by Crowley Cajun
Member since Sep 2004
302 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 2:43 pm to
Thanks. We're going to the meeting to get information about it. I have one relative that is retired from the highway dept. and he gave us some insight. He also said that it should be an interesting meeting.
Posted by Crowley Cajun
Member since Sep 2004
302 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 2:50 pm to
What it really boils down to is choice. You can tell a developer no. You really don't have a choice if they really want it. And you can beat a developer. I have a relative that did it.
Posted by Crowley Cajun
Member since Sep 2004
302 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 2:52 pm to
Not to the point of knowing what exactly we do with the property and how long it's in our family. But to each their own.
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