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re: La with 5388 positive new cases today, third highest day of entire pandemic.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:15 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:15 pm to Fun Bunch
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Is it possible to achieve herd immunity? Yes or no?
I dunno, have we achieved it with the flu and the common cold?
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Yes or no?
frick off with this nonsense. The answers are more complex than yes or no. You're doing that bullshite lawyer thing where you try to frame a complex issue into some small one line question that couldn't possibly do enough to capture the entire situation.
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:17 pm to Steadyhands
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Look at all the specific data and it's elderly and people with poor health conditions that are getting covid and dying. I have yet to see data that shows the vaccine significantly improves anything for younger, healthier people.
They want young people to get the vaccine so there isn't a bunch of Covid spreading to the old folks for whom the vaccine didn't work as well and for this people with underlying conditions. Since we know they won't work for some fraction of the population, increasing vaccinations decrease spread and potential for those people to catch it.
I know this should be fricking obvious but
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:17 pm to LNCHBOX
I am not doing that at all.
The vaccines are either effective, or they are not.
If they are effective, then a higher percentage of vaccinated people will result in a significant reduction in cases, hospitalizations, and deaths.
Is that true, or not?
The vaccines are either effective, or they are not.
If they are effective, then a higher percentage of vaccinated people will result in a significant reduction in cases, hospitalizations, and deaths.
Is that true, or not?
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:17 pm to Duke
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spreading to the old folks for whom the vaccine didn't work as well
Why does it not work as well in old people?
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:19 pm to LNCHBOX
Sorry, I mean old people (those at higher risk) who are in the cohort that it isn't effective for. Not that it isn't specifically as effective for old people, which I don't know either way.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:20 pm to Fun Bunch
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I am not doing that at all.
You literally just yes or no'ed me twice. And you've done it in other threads. It's a weak argument meant to fool idiots.
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The vaccines are either effective, or they are not.
It's too early to say for sure.
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If they are effective, then a higher percentage of vaccinated people will result in a significant reduction in cases, hospitalizations, and deaths.
Fairly certain no one has argued this. The argument is your fairy tell that that will keep the power hungry politicians from continuing to walk all over us.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:21 pm to Duke
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increasing vaccinations decrease spread and potential for those people to catch it.
I know this should be fricking obvious but
Apparently it makes someone stupid to believe this, somehow.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:22 pm to Fun Bunch
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Apparently it makes someone stupid to believe this, somehow.
It makes you a sheep according to the OT and a Nazi according to the PT
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:23 pm to LNCHBOX
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he argument is your fairy tell that that will keep the power hungry politicians from continuing to walk all over us.
I have said it will give them less of an excuse to do so.
The less excuse they have to justify their actions, the less political will they have to do it.
That is, of course, in theory, and in places where there is some level of opposition.
It would work in LA. It wouldn't work as well in New Orleans as it would in Bunkie.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:24 pm to Fun Bunch
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I have said it will give them less of an excuse to do so.
The less excuse they have to justify their actions, the less political will they have to do it.
JBE hasn't had the political capital to do what he's done for a very long time. You think that's stopping him any more than it did before?
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:26 pm to LNCHBOX
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You think that's stopping him any more than it did before?
I do, yeah. I think if he had his druthers we would have shut down almost two weeks ago.
I also think only having a 40% vaccination rate statewide, which is extremely pathetic, gives him massive cover to do it all again.
My only point has always been to take the excuse away from these frickers. That is it.
I do not understand how and why that is so controversial, or gets you so hot and bothered.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:26 pm to LNCHBOX
Animals can carry flu and transmit that to humans. That can make herd immunity difficult. In the next ten years we will have the capabilities to rid ourselves of flu from a vaccine( ).
Common cold isn't one particular virus, It's actually dozen of viruses. The most common is obviously rhino but that alone has hundred of strands. Common cold is by far the most difficult to reach herd immunity.
). Common cold isn't one particular virus, It's actually dozen of viruses. The most common is obviously rhino but that alone has hundred of strands. Common cold is by far the most difficult to reach herd immunity.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:32 pm to Fun Bunch
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False
Oh really.
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it makes some people more likely to get covid by a significant degree.
Are you retarded? I literally used the same play on words you used earlier about "some people being vaccinated will still get it".
You weren't wrong, but I am not either. To find that funny indicates you have some mild retardation. Try to keep up with your own comments at least.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:34 pm to LNCHBOX
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JBE hasn't had the political capital to do what he's done for a very long time.
Not up for reelection
Only capital he has is in making DNC happy for a sweet gubment job when he is gone
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:36 pm to josh336
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Mask mandates coming for sure. Wish they would just put them on the unvaccinated
Why? Vaccinated individuals are also testing positive and are part of that number.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:36 pm to Fun Bunch
I agree that people who refuse to get vaccinated for political or ideological reasons are generally not the brightest bulbs, but it kinda is what it is at this point. I doubt they are gonna smarten up.
It's regrettable that a few more vaccinated people will get it, get sick and a few will die because of the overall increase and some vaccinated people will be unnecessarily inconvenienced by mask mandates for the same reason but hopefully those numbers stay small.
The unvaccinated can take their chances, which don't seem to be that high anyway.
It's regrettable that a few more vaccinated people will get it, get sick and a few will die because of the overall increase and some vaccinated people will be unnecessarily inconvenienced by mask mandates for the same reason but hopefully those numbers stay small.
The unvaccinated can take their chances, which don't seem to be that high anyway.
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:37 pm to Duke
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They want young people to get the vaccine so there isn't a bunch of Covid spreading to the old folks for whom the vaccine didn't work as well and for this people with underlying conditions. Since we know they won't work for some fraction of the population, increasing vaccinations decrease spread and potential for those people to catch it.
I know this should be fricking obvious but
It is obvious, but frick that. Elderly and unhealthy people are not my problem. Protect yourself how you need to. Your protection should not infringe upon my life. If you're not fit with your own immune system to battle this, then get the vaccine, minimize public interaction, social distance when in public and where a mask. I will respect all of that, but don't ask me to get a vaccine to protect someone else.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:38 pm to Fun Bunch
Lmaooooo.. I guess beings no one works these days collecting unemployment from the government they are bored and run down to the nearest clinic to b tested for the non existent DELTA VARIANT…maybe the government might be giving out another handout to those who do test positive.. I mean MONEY is FREE these days…or maybe cases are going up from the Bus Drops of 80+ illegals in Baton Rouge & Shreveport..but that’s right, only Americans carry the VIRUS…My Bad...LoL..
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:38 pm to Fun Bunch
Time for mandatory vaccinations. Good job fellas.
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