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Posted on 11/17/21 at 8:49 pm to OMLandshark
Where are all those pics of bricks from?
Posted on 11/17/21 at 8:50 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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It really is kinda fascinating. Who buys them? Who sells and delivers them? Gotta figure it’s someone relatively local, right? Surely they’d ask questions when it’s their town, I highly doubt the local hardware guys are down with “the cause”
Just need to start asking them who paid the bill.
They arent delivering construction materials right now to a random spot in a city without payment.
Need to harass the brick place.
This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 11/17/21 at 9:04 pm to kengel2
I haven't been keeping up with this thread, but what are people's opinions on the jury taking this long to deliberate on this BS case?
It was such BS that the prosecutor had to make up shite left and right and almost got it declared a mistrial on numerous occasions, which he may have been trying to do on purpose. It seemed like it was very obvious to mostly everyone, except for the extremist on the left, that this case was such BS. What gives?
It just seems like with the facts given in the trial and the lack of really anything from the prosecutor that proves he murdered someone. And if there was a shred of evidence saying that he did murder that dude, it sure as hell wasn't beyond a reasonable doubt.
And that's not even taking in to account how it became pretty clear that the investigation was complete bullshite and that the cops seemed to have been told to go back and MAKE the evidence fit to the crime, after the DA prematurely indicted him and more facts came out and they realized they were fricked. It was a purely political decision to indict Kyle and it appears as though, not only did the prosecutors or someone associated, asked people to lie, makeup stories, over exaggerate or slant the truth.
I guess I'm wondering if the consensus is someone is trying to bribe these jurors or intimidate them and that's why they haven't come with a decision yet. They should have deliberated for an hour and came back not guilty. And they definitely should not be going in to day 3 of deliberation.
The prosecutors whole case was fishy and now, this deliberation process is starting to smell more and more fishy as the time keeps ticking.
It was such BS that the prosecutor had to make up shite left and right and almost got it declared a mistrial on numerous occasions, which he may have been trying to do on purpose. It seemed like it was very obvious to mostly everyone, except for the extremist on the left, that this case was such BS. What gives?
It just seems like with the facts given in the trial and the lack of really anything from the prosecutor that proves he murdered someone. And if there was a shred of evidence saying that he did murder that dude, it sure as hell wasn't beyond a reasonable doubt.
And that's not even taking in to account how it became pretty clear that the investigation was complete bullshite and that the cops seemed to have been told to go back and MAKE the evidence fit to the crime, after the DA prematurely indicted him and more facts came out and they realized they were fricked. It was a purely political decision to indict Kyle and it appears as though, not only did the prosecutors or someone associated, asked people to lie, makeup stories, over exaggerate or slant the truth.
I guess I'm wondering if the consensus is someone is trying to bribe these jurors or intimidate them and that's why they haven't come with a decision yet. They should have deliberated for an hour and came back not guilty. And they definitely should not be going in to day 3 of deliberation.
The prosecutors whole case was fishy and now, this deliberation process is starting to smell more and more fishy as the time keeps ticking.
This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 11/17/21 at 9:07 pm to saint tiger225
I'm thinking there's a few holdouts that don't want to vote Not Guilty
Posted on 11/17/21 at 9:10 pm to saint tiger225
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I haven't been keeping up with this thread, but what are people's opinions on the jury taking this long to deliberate on this BS case?
The longer it goes on the worse it is for him. I think we all agree with that. I’m still thinking hung jury since I can’t imagine there’s not at least one brave and decent person on that jury. OJ was revenge against a fricked system, but this isn’t. This is an innocent kid who protected his life, and everything we’re hearing behind the scenes makes me think all 12 of them know and acknowledge this. You just have cowards on the jury as well as being afraid of the media, BLM, and Antifa, and rightly so may I add.
If I was there, I’ve lived a decent life, I’ve known love, and I’ve seen the beauty and horrors of this world. Kyle hasn’t and is half my age. I’m sorry, but even with the calls to violence from Antifa and the media and they target me, I’ve lived. Granted I don’t have kids, so maybe that would change my mind to be cowardly just for their sakes, but if there’s a single middle aged male on that jury with balls, you stay firm no matter what it means for you personally.
This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 11/17/21 at 9:11 pm to mjthe
That's what my worry is and that's complete bullshite if that's the case. Maybe I was watching a different trial than the ones who think he's guilty or maybe I just don't understand everything that the prosecution tried to lay out, but I feel what was presented seemed like such a stretch, that it was pretty obvious he is not guilty of murder.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 9:12 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Relax. There are palm trees and green arse leaves in those pics. It sure as hell isn’t Wisconsin.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 9:13 pm to mjthe
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I'm thinking there's a few holdouts that don't want to vote Not Guilty
100% will be a hung jury. At least one will be of the "Facts don't matter, feelings do." variety. Probably the women, there's 7 of them. Good luck appealing to logic with a karen-cut mask-wearing educator that lives off of social media.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 9:18 pm to USMCguy121
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100% will be a hung jury. At least one will be of the "Facts don't matter, feelings do." variety. Probably the women, there's 7 of them. Good luck appealing to logic with a karen-cut mask-wearing educator that lives off of social media.
I do think Kyle is a very sympathetic individual though, and these women it will cross their minds if this was their kid in this situation. Chauvin on the other hand is what first comes to mind for everyone when they think of someone who looks like a bad cop even if they’ve never laid eyes on him or he did nothing wrong. It was easy to convict him even if it was wrong. Kyle is not though if you’ve actually listened to the case.
I think cowardice is the major factor here and if this wasn’t a national case with the media and violent thugs threatening them, this case would have come back Not Guilty on all charges within the hour. You could read on the judge’s face today multiple times that he was thinking about calling this trial mistrial by prejudice, but then his family and his grandkids come to mind, and then he pusses out throwing it back to the jury. Cowardice is the simplest answer for what is going on.
This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 11/17/21 at 9:20 pm to OMLandshark
quote:This is exactly my thoughts as well as my fear for him. It seems the longer they take, it's pointing towards a system that's going to convict a young, innocent kid. I'd venture to say that if most of those jurors we're in that same situation, they would have done the same thing as he did.
This is an innocent kid who protected his life, and everything we’re hearing behind the scenes makes me think all 12 of them know and acknowledge this. You just have cowards on the jury as well afraid of the media, BLM, and Antifa, and rightly so may I add.
The problem here is that he's a young, white male that most people think is conservative and because of that, the media and all the crazies have been full retard going after him and saying things that simply aren't true. All of this became obvious as the case was laid out. I don't see how you can be on this jury and be ok with convicting this kid.
Hell, he really didn't even need defense attorneys. That's just how bad of a case the prosecution had. It was complete bullshite and I believe deep down, they knew/know it. If this kid's life is thrown away because of these corrupt prosecutors, the corrupt DA and all the other corrupt frickheads involved, I hope they all burn in hell.
shite, now that I said that, I already hope they burn in hell, just because they brought these charges against him.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 9:21 pm to saint tiger225
quote:I think we'll know by noon tomorrow. My guess is that the majority want to acquit but there have been a couple hesitant to do so. They viewed that video late in the day. Afterwards I think that same majority voted to leave for the night. Let the holdouts sleep on it and hopefully at least open their minds to an acquittal. Of course that could be backward but then asking to see that specific video is likely about the first shots fired by him. With him running away from the initial gun fire (and a guy coming from that direction gaining ground on him) I think the clear drone footage helps him when it's run at regular speed.
what are people's opinions on the jury taking this long to deliberate on this BS case?
Posted on 11/17/21 at 9:23 pm to OMLandshark
quote:That sums up my feelings pretty well.
Cowardice is the simplest answer for what is going on.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:41 am to saint tiger225
Just watched the mistrial/question 5 arguments again and am convinced the judge is praying for a NG so he doesn't have to rule on either the written motion (w/ prejudice) or the idiotic verbal motion w/o prejudice.
Did anyone else pickup on him calling the next case in the docket before the camera panned up? For some stupid reason I thought all he was doing was this case. And since he's got a cold, what in the hell happens if one day he can't make it to work?
Food for thought...if the holdout is a person who loves to hunt, look for a verdict no later than Friday noon. The roads going NB the day before gun deer season starts only get busier as the day goes on. The Peckers and hunting are a crazy religion up in that part of the country.
Did anyone else pickup on him calling the next case in the docket before the camera panned up? For some stupid reason I thought all he was doing was this case. And since he's got a cold, what in the hell happens if one day he can't make it to work?
Food for thought...if the holdout is a person who loves to hunt, look for a verdict no later than Friday noon. The roads going NB the day before gun deer season starts only get busier as the day goes on. The Peckers and hunting are a crazy religion up in that part of the country.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 6:27 am to MSUDawg98
Hopefully we get a verdict today.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:34 am to JDPndahizzy
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Hopefully we get a verdict today.
I have a feeling its not going to be the verdict we all expect, however I have faith the judge will rule a mistrial with prejudice if that happens and cities will burn
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:50 am to tgrbaitn08
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I have a feeling its not going to be the verdict we all expect,
I never expected an acquittal with the world we live in today... But you're right, I hope the judge declares a mistrial. I think that would be a huge win for Kyle at this point.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:51 am to tgrbaitn08
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I have a feeling its not going to be the verdict we all expect
People keep saying this, but I just can't wrap my mind around how anything but not guilty or hung jury is the outcome. Even some of the most liberal voices are saying he should walk, but we're supposed to expect a 12 person jury to go totally the opposite direction and convict him based on some grainy arse video? I just don't buy it.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:53 am to tgrbaitn08
Can you imagine KR getting acquitted, the mob going out for "justice" and KR heading back out to shoot some more of these schleps
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:57 am to Ingeniero
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People keep saying this, but I just can't wrap my mind around how anything but not guilty or hung jury is the outcome. Even some of the most liberal voices are saying he should walk, but we're supposed to expect a 12 person jury to go totally the opposite direction and convict him based on some grainy arse video? I just don't buy it.
I'm only saying this now bc of how long it's taking....now if they show up this morning at 0930 and at 0945 they announce they have a verdict then I think that is good news....if they go past lunch today without a verdict....I think thats bad news. Means they are probably deadlocked and a hung jury and they judge is going to lose his shite a declare a mistrial....which would be the best possible outcome.
Either way, this is probably the last case this judge hears in his lifetime so he probably doesnt GAF
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