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re: Kanye: "I see good things about Hitler. Every human being has value...especially Hitler"

Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:48 am to
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:48 am to
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dont even come close to making up for genocide


Of course not.. no one is giving them a pass...Nazi were wrong for the racial atrocities and war crimes.

But as I said... All of those were Nazi started programs.. And it is History.. unchangable.

Do you think sending an inner city kid to a farm for a few weeks is a good or bad thing?

This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 9:49 am
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:48 am to
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no one is giving them a pass...Nazi were wrong for the racial atrocities.
and this is as far as we should go
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11847 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:49 am to
And not just genocide - blood and soil ideology compelled the Nazi government to actively disrespect national sovereignty of neighboring countries and kicked off a war that ended up with >40 million dead, none of which would have happened without their wild-arse arrogance.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:49 am to
I heard Hitler was extremely polite to the waiters and waitresses in Berchtesgaden...how come you never hear THAT in any history class?
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 9:54 am
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:52 am to
And to think the Japs and Soviets were much worse than even Hitler. That’s not spoken about enough in the history books or movies. Probably because the Jews run Hollywood and love to whine about a little bit of genocide 75 years ago.
Posted by ThatTahoeOverThere
Member since Nov 2021
4974 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:52 am to
And people that scream about fake religions can do the same
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130239 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:53 am to
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hose are just a few... You decide if those programs were good or not.


Neat, probably don't say out loud if you're Kanye that Nazi's also did some good things.

When you commit genocide you forfeit that I think.
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
9005 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:55 am to
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and this is as far as we should go


Actually... people were hung from the gallows for it.. Nazi's were searched for and hung for years... just a few years ago a 90 year old Nazi went to prison.

Now. Is talking an inner city kid to the farm for a few weeks good bad?

Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130239 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:56 am to
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And not just genocide - blood and soil ideology compelled the Nazi government to actively disrespect national sovereignty of neighboring countries and kicked off a war that ended up with >40 million dead, none of which would have happened without their wild-arse arrogance.



True, but a little more complex than that.

The treaty that ended WWI was a total disaster for the german people, and the allies really didn't need to go that hard in it as has been documented many times.

Desperation after the war partially led to Hitler and the Nazis and their hatred.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:57 am to
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Actually... people were hung from the gallows for it.. Nazi's were searched for and hung for years... just a few years ago a 90 year old Nazi went to prison
and this is bad?
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
9005 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:04 am to
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and this is bad?


Not if he was a criminal.

Now I have answered two or your questions, can you answer just one of mine?

Is taking an inner city kid to the farm for a couple weeks a good thing or bad thing?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150131 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:07 am to
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Is taking an inner city kid to the farm for a couple weeks a good thing or bad thing?

if some altruistic group focused on charity does it, its a great thing. When the nazis are doing it, why are we even talking about it? Their story ends with genocide, world war, and monstrosity. Nothing else
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37052 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:07 am to
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and a billionaire gets hit with a $200k per month child support for multiple kids? that seems odd

Isn't child support somewhat dependent upon what both parents are worth? Kim is also a billionaire, so for him to actually have to pay her child support, I would assume that means that he's still worth more than her in the eyes of the court? I could be wrong as I don't come from a broken family, but what was always my understanding of it.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11847 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:07 am to
Every totalitarian regime is kind to its loyalists at least some of the time.

Why do you think praising any aspect of Nazism has been a taboo in American discourse since WWII?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130239 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:07 am to
This whole thing has been both sad and totally hilarious.

both Yoohoo and Chris Paul catching nuclear level strays is the best
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 10:09 am
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:08 am to
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Is taking an inner city kid to the farm for a couple weeks a good thing or bad thing?



The Nazi Party, murderer of 6 million Jews and 4 million other undesirables, invaders of soverign nations, war criminals, and art school wash-outs, did a nice thing helping those inner city kids work on a farm for a couple of weeks.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130239 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:08 am to
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Is taking an inner city kid to the farm for a couple weeks a good thing or bad thing?


they took a lot of kids to the country on trains
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:09 am to
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Is taking an inner city kid to the farm for a couple weeks a good thing or bad thing?


If you are his guardian that wants to go kill a few million Jewish people after then taking him to a farm won't do shite to help him in the long run.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130239 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:14 am to
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37052 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:20 am to
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dont even come close to making up for genocide

This is a terrible argument. You're conflating, "these people did some good things" and "these people did more good than bad". They aren't the same thing, and it's a logical fallacy to attempt to treat them as such.
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