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re: Just a thought - The Immaculate Conception

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Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:52 pm to
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Worshipping Mary is like worshipping the Ark. Both were just a vessel for God’s gift of grace.


Who worships Mary?
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:52 pm to
Do you Catholic much?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62404 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:53 pm to
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Why?


Because practicing Christians were around before the Bible.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:54 pm to
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I believe in this mystery,

but don't understand what it is...


the Immaculate Conception refers to the earthly origin of Mary herself, not to Mary's conception of Jesus... officially stated by Pope Pius IX on Dec. 8, 1854...

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62404 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:54 pm to
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Do you Catholic much?


Catholics don't worship Mary, no matter how much of an erroneous belief that they do that you may harbor.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62404 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:56 pm to
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but don't understand what it is...


the Immaculate Conception refers to the earthly origin of Mary herself, not to Mary's conception of Jesus... officially stated by Pope Pius IX on Dec. 8, 1854...



I hate to white knight for Liz, but I think you misread her OP, right?
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:56 pm to
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why does she have to be sinless to have a sinless Jesus?


She didn't and wasn't. There is nothing in the Bible to back up saying that Mary was without sin.

Luke 1:46-47 "And Mary said: “My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior"

Why would she need a Savior if she were sinless?



Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62404 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:57 pm to
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There is nothing in the Bible to back up saying that Mary was without sin.


Sola Scriptura is a silly belief.

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Why would she need a Savior if she were sinless?


How do you think she became sinless? She didn't make herself so.
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:57 pm to
I don't know if he was immaculate, but this Concepcion was a damn fine shortstop and my favorite player as a young lad.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:59 pm to
God is the OG Jody.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:59 pm to
What the hell, Lilith? You had your shot.
Posted by White Bear
AT WORK
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:59 pm to
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Did you misspell reception?
I watched this on youtube. Linemen were tiny compared to the fat baws of today.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
26689 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:59 pm to
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t I think you misread her OP, right?

perhaps, but it sure reads a lot like she is insinuating that Mary, b/c of the Immaculate Conception and carrying Jesus as her child that she skipped the whole painful birthing thing...

maybe I am wrong... if Liz would like to explain that she did know that the IC was not about Jesus' origin, but rather about Mary herself, then cool...
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
26689 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:01 pm to
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There is nothing in the Bible to back up saying that Mary was without sin.

let's be honest... theres nothing in the Bible about a lot of stuff that Christians believe wholeheartedly but here we are...
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13704 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:01 pm to
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Sola Scriptura is a silly belief.


Why? What other sources of inspired and infallible divine revelation are there?

quote:

How do you think she became sinless?


I don't think she did. And there is literally nothing in the Bible stating otherwise.
This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 8:03 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62404 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:03 pm to
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perhaps, but it sure reads a lot like she is insinuating that Mary, b/c of the Immaculate Conception and carrying Jesus as her child that she skipped the whole painful birthing thing...

maybe I am wrong... if Liz would like to explain that she did know that the IC was not about Jesus' origin, but rather about Mary herself, then cool...


I don't know, man. I think you're misreading the OP. Try rereading one more time. She's clearly referring to Mary being born without sin.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62404 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:04 pm to
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Why? What other sources of inspired and infallible divine revelation are there?


So how did the earliest Christians function?

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I don't think she did. And there is literally nothing in the Bible stating otherwise.



Again, sola scriptura is silly.
Posted by MelGibsonPatriotGif
America
Member since Nov 2020
775 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:06 pm to
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I believe in this mystery


You mean “story”
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
26689 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:06 pm to
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I think you're misreading the OP. Try rereading one more time. She's clearly referring to Mary being born without sin.

maybe... either way, i don't care enough about the topic to try to defend my possible misread anyway
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13704 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:07 pm to
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sola scriptura is silly.


Why?
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