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re: Jury selection begins in trial of man who killed Joe McKnight

Posted on 1/16/18 at 3:57 pm to
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122534 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

Can someone tell me why this guy is not allowed to defend himself?


I am not sure, but I know it is one of the dumbest fricking things someone can decide to do.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49579 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

No way a black jury lets this guy off.


If its shown that McKnight wasn't actively trying to get in Gasser's car, a white jury won't let him off either.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

If someone is chasing me for miles and then approaches my vehicle at first opportunity, that mother f***** is getting shot


Then you'll go to prison where you'll have to learn to use your hands.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58630 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

I'd say this turns into a Trayvon Martin kind of thing. Legally justified, but the shooter is a worthless piece of shite who started something he couldn't finish and immediately jumped to deadly force.

Deadly force should have been used in the TM case. That is a fact.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58630 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

If someone is chasing me for miles and then approaches my vehicle at first opportunity, that mother f***** is getting shot


Then you'll go to prison where you'll have to learn to use your hands.

not if he was in fear for his life or said motherf***** was trying to gain unauthorized entry into his vehicle and he thought this was the only way to stop him.
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 6:39 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
82457 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 7:11 pm to
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Jefferson Parish prosecutors intend to introduce evidence Ronald Gasser attacked another motorist in a 2006 road rage confrontation at the very same intersection where the shooting occurred. In that case, Gasser was accused of punching a man who called to complain about his driving, authorities said. 


Gasser is a tPOS.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7840 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 7:16 pm to
All he had to do was pull on the door handle, that is, attempt to gain access to Gasser inside the vehicle. If Gasser testifies that at the time of the attack he felt the fearful of an imminent threat of death or great bodily harm, then it's justified homicide.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 7:20 pm to
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Deadly force should have been used in the TM case. That is a fact.


Zimmerman was told to stand down by officers. Her didn't, pursued Martin, then got his arse whipped and resorted to deadly force. I said it was justified by the law, but we also know Zimmerman is a no good POS too.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7840 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 7:21 pm to
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Not according to the law.


Which law is that?
Posted by reggielendale
Member since Jan 2006
1103 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 7:23 pm to
UPDATE:
quote:

Prospective jurors were asked about gun ownership, road rage and racial profiling during afternoon proceedings Tuesday (Jan. 16) in the second-degree murder trial of Ronald Gasser, the man accused of killing former NFL player Joe McKnight in a road rage confrontation on Dec. 1, 2016. The trial is expected to last two weeks.

LINK
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7840 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 7:42 pm to
According to the article:

quote:

Louisiana's self-defense laws look to play a large role in the trial, with Gasser's attorneys poised to argue that he fired in self-defense. Gasser's defense attorney, Matthew Goetz, asked prospective jurors if they agreed with state law allowing for a presumed right to defend oneself from imminent bodily harm in the event that an aggressor enters into one's property, such as a car.


So it appears the defensive will use both the fear of bodily harm AND the aggressor attempting to gain access to the defendant inside his vehicle (castle doctrine).
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 7:43 pm to
They're going to try many different things, but their strongest defense is castle doctrine.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7840 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 7:45 pm to
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

Which law is that?



The one that says deadly force can be used if they're trying to get into your vehicle. It doesn't say you can shoot once someone gets out of their car.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7840 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 8:49 pm to
quote:

The one that says deadly force can be used if they're trying to get into your vehicle. It doesn't say you can shoot once someone gets out of their car.


Didn't Gasser shoot McKnight from his own vehicle? If Gasser was out of his vehicle, then all he has to do is testify that he was fearful that McKnight through his actions was about to threaten his life or cause him great bodily harm and it's still justifiable homicide. There are two cases here for the use of deadly force in self defense.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36823 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 8:58 pm to
Driving away wasn’t an option for this guy? You are in a car and the man you are afraid of is outside the car...step on the gas pedal Moron.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 8:58 pm to
I wonder if they have any reliable witnesses. That intersection is always busy. Gasser’s attorney better hope they have someone willing to say they saw McKnight pull on the door or jump into his window. The fact that his passenger window was even down shows he was likely talking shite when Joe got out. Plus his history of doing the same exact thing is going to be a pretty big key here. The defense better come to play.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 8:59 pm to
We've gone through this. He will be eaten alive with his 2006 incident that happened at the same intersection. He followed a guy to a gas station and punched him several times. He will not be able to go with the fearful for his life defense as easily as you think.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:00 pm to
He doesn't have to drive away and failure to do so cannot be held against him in Louisiana law.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36823 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:01 pm to
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The fact that his passenger window was even down shows he was likely talking shite when Joe got out.


Also it’s hard to say you are “fearful” when you don’t take the most basic steps to protect yourself. Check this guys Netflix cue and I’ll bet he was just watching Falling Down.
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