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re: Jury selection begins in trial of man who killed Joe McKnight

Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:32 pm to
Maybe it's just me but unless McKnight put his hands on him I see three gunshots as excessive force.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:33 pm to
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His attorneys will not make a case for self defense, they won't

They will make the case for Castle Doctirne

The fact Gasser admits he "set off after Jm" will keep his attorneys away from self defense


But would you like to bet?



regardless of the defense.....I say Gasser walks
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:35 pm to
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regardless of the defense.....I say Gasser walks


Possibly but a whole lot of people in the Will Smith thread said the same thing.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:36 pm to
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Maybe it's just me but unless McKnight put his hands on him I see three gunshots as excessive force.


Nah, if there is evidence that McKnight was trying to get in Gasser's car, he'll be protected under the law.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:36 pm to
Fair enough

Let's talk outside of court and the legal system now


So you really think Gasser, a man who followed someone to a gas station before and physically assuaged them over road rage, who also admits to "setting off after JM due to being angry at his driving", really acted in self defense, and not hot head anger?
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 2:37 pm
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:37 pm to
If they can prove he was trying to get into the car, it's done. He has the right to use deadly force to prevent the entry into his car.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:41 pm to
This will also be an interesting exchange in court


Prosecuter: "Mr. Gasser, you admit to setting off after McKnight when his driving angered you. What exactly were you planning on doing while setting off after him? "
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:42 pm to
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Prosecuter: "Mr. Gasser, you admit to setting off after McKnight when his driving angered you. What exactly were you planning on doing while setting off after him? "


Tell him he was driving in an unsafe manner.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:44 pm to
Prosecuter: "in 2006, you physically assaulted another human when they upset you on the road. After punching them in the head, you said, "i will get you". Now that you have gun, were you going after McKnight to "get him""


I know that isn't allowed but frick it seems pretty relevant here
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:47 pm to
I mean this mother ducker axtually followed someone to a gas station and beat them while telling them he would get them at this exact same intersection

Now, he admits to following after McKnight. There was a chance jm was going down that day no matter what
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 2:48 pm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:49 pm to
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So you really think Gasser, a man who followed someone to a gas station before and physically assuaged them over road rage, who also admits to "setting off after JM due to being angry at his driving", really acted in self defense, and not hot head anger?




I think it's plausible to believe he was in some sort of fear...whether it was for his life or that he was about to get his arse kicked.
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:50 pm to
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they arent. the line to the right of Joe's car is not the intersection line. Joe wasnt even in a lane


It was a lane...



Don't get me wrong, he pulled up to argue, but he was still in a lane.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:51 pm to
And from a non legal standpoint, when you are in fear because you are chasing another human being, an action you have done before which led to you assaulting a person , your fear does not get you out of murder in my eyes, because you initiated and brought upon said fear


I understand certain aspects of the law read differently
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 2:52 pm
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:52 pm to
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I think it's plausible to believe he was in some sort of fear...whether it was for his life or that he was about to get his arse kicked


It's not like you can't see how big JM is in the car. Based on his history, I tend to think he was ready to fight or shoot JM from the start.
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:53 pm to
He's technically in the right turn lane where no one would still be facing south at that point.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:53 pm to
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Jones
Whats your issue? Jm was in a lane
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:53 pm to
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because you initiated and brought upon said fear



Well JM cut him off first..thats what initiated the chase
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:54 pm to
I don't get the big football player argument either. McKnight was 5'11", 205 lbs.
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