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re: Judge, attorney call for removal of Confederate monument at Calcasieu Courthouse

Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:38 pm to
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:38 pm to
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I don't know dick about Calcasieu Parish,
darrell's is all you need to know
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:04 pm to
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All them baws talking about NOLA citizens doing nothing, here's your chance.


limp wristed
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:25 pm to
It could be that the front of the courthouse isn't the best location for this memorial.

And even though it's a general memorial honoring the war dead, it isn't possible to completely divorce the death from the reason for fighting.

Might be better suited to a cemetery.
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 11:27 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:27 pm to
They used them limp wrists to drag that statue out the river today.
Posted by NastyTiger
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:34 pm to
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The majority of those casualties during Pickett’s charge. They were in the 11th Mississippi of the army of northern Virginia, known as the University Greys


I sincerely hope they rest in peace.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:36 pm to

Curious. When was this monument erected? Anyone know the year?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:39 pm to
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The South’s Defenders Memorial Monument was put on the lawn of the Calcasieu Courthouse in 1915


Per the article.

50 years after the end of the civil war.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:01 am to
It’s a monument to the men who didn’t come home.

These people have no shame.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:13 am to

Why did it take 50 years to honor them? Or in some towns, until the 50's and 60's?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:16 am to
Be a man and actually say it - don’t hide behind innuendo - you think they’re racist.

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The monuments started cropping up as civil war veterans began to die off.

Consider the WW2 memorial, it was created under similar circumstances.

Poverty was the other issue. Finding the funds for these statues.
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 12:18 am
Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:28 am to
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Why did it take 50 years to honor them? Or in some towns, until the 50's and 60's?




The courthouse was completed in 1912 and this monument was built 3 years later.


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This courthouse was replaced in 1891 by a colonial-style brick building erected at a cost of $20,000. In 1902 the parish added an annex to this building. A disastrous fire on April 23, 1910, destroyed the courthouse as well as most of downtown Lake Charles. Many of the records of the parish were burned or damaged. On April 4, 1911, the Police Jury decided to build a new courthouse on the old site.

It is a brick and terracotta structure completed in 1912 at a cost of $200,000. It is a replica of the famous Villa Copra, known as the Rotunda in Vicenza. The villa was designed by noted Italian architect, Andrea Palladio. His work became internationally known in the 17th and 18th centuries, and was influential both in Great Britain and the United States. Calcasieu Parish's replica was designed by Favrot and Livaudais of New Orleans. The dome atop the courthouse is of solid copper.



All of Lake Charles downtown suffered a huge fire in 1910 destroying the old courthouse.


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LAKE CHARLES, LA (KPLC) - Despite the fact that the City of Lake Charles was founded in the 1860s, most of the buildings downtown only date to 1911. That’s because a Great Fire destroyed seven city blocks on this day in 1910.

On April 23, 109 years ago, the fire began in a small trash can behind the “Old Opera House Saloon” on North Ryan Street. The owners called the fire department, but the firemen were no match for the gusty winds and the highly flammable construction, mainly wooden buildings.

The fire spread quickly, engulfing block after block, causing $750,000 (in 1910 currency, equivalent to more than $19 million today) in property damage as it consumed more than 100 buildings. Among the structural casualties were Immaculate Conception Church, city hall and the Calcasieu Parish courthouse. Most of the legal documents located inside the courthouse were lost.





Original courthouse that was destroyed

This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 12:36 am
Posted by Old Money
LSU
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:32 am to
All this country cares about is gay sex, trannies, and tax revenue. frick this place
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:32 am to
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Why have a statue for such bad soldiers? That's like getting blown out by the Dream Team and putting up statues to honor it. You guys into participation trophies now?



Did you miss the part where I said the majority occurred during Pickett’s charge? You think you could have survived that unwounded?
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:36 am to

What does the monument to the great fire of 1910 look like? Is there a plaque or pics of the memorial?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:37 am to
Moving the goal post

There is a plaza dedicated to it across the street but I can't find pics online.

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Local officials and town's people dedicated the 1911 Memorial Plaza outside the 1911 Historic City Hall building, the city hall which replaced the one that perished in the 1910 fire.
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 12:43 am
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:43 am to
No. Just wondering how a city founded in the 60's is rooted in the confederacy in 1912.
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 12:44 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:44 am to
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a city founded in the 60's


You mean 1861? Because that's when LC was founded.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:47 am to
You’re a coward.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:50 am to
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You mean 1861? Because that's when LC was founded.


Ok I need to see where this goes. What on earth was he getting at?
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:51 am to

Yes. 1861.
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