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re: Journalism professor: Leaks are meant to serve the public, not institutions

Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:25 am to
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:25 am to
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It benefitted the Democrat party and the body destruction industry.

The Democrat party was the intended benefit, mid terms.

Democrats leak shite to piss off overly dramatic women
So...not the leaker. Got it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:26 am to
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So...not the leaker. Got it.


True

Leaks are not meant to serve the public. They are meant to benefit the Democrat party.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:27 am to
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True
So we agree
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:29 am to
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That it really has no individual benefit for the leaker.



I mean sure I guess in a literal sense.

I would argue that if your morals and values were being attacked (I'm not opining on the legitimacy of those) than leaking something to stop a decision that you feel attalll) that attack on those morals and values does benefit you personally.

But again, I'm not sure what point you are trying to make as it's quite clear why this person leaked what they did. You can try to get into some weird intangible arguement about individual benefit, but it's pointless to the discussion.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:29 am to
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Jerry Ceppos, former dean of LSU’s Manship School of Mass Communication, teaches media ethics there.


They make PI lawyers look like honest workers.

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Contact him at jceppos@lsu.edu.


Tell him how we feel.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:30 am to
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How does that benefit them specifically?

If anything, all it's done is made the majority more entrenched.


Yep, they are definitely not benefiting from having crazy people protesting outside of Supreme Court justices homes. You are deliberately being obtuse here.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11548 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:34 am to
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Yep, they are definitely not benefiting from having crazy people protesting outside of Supreme Court justices homes. You are deliberately being obtuse here.
No, they aren't. Again, if anything, it is making their side look ridiculous and only entrenching the majority further.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
16611 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:34 am to
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Liberals like leaking.


This must be why the potato wears a diaper.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:36 am to
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Again, if anything, it is making their side look ridiculou


That's your opinion. Many people disagree with you.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:37 am to
That's your read of a situation, none of us actually know what the heck is going on in those chambers.

Dude, woman, Xie whatever leaked information to either pressure them into change or get them to dig in on their decisions. I don't really care about the semantics, but the leak is obviously an attempt to manipulate the court by using public opinion.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11548 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:37 am to
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That's your opinion. Many people disagree with you.
Not the people I talk to (or anyone here on this board).

I know a lot of liberal people who are worried about Roe being overturned, but none who support protesting the homes of SCOTUS justices.
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 10:40 am
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11548 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:38 am to
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That's your read of a situation, none of us actually know what the heck is going on in those chambers.
Which justice do you think might change his/her vote based on public pressure? They're all hardcore on this issue.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:40 am to
There have been multiple reports that Roberts is attempting to change votes, and I don't see how Kav especially is considered a pro life hardliners.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11548 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:42 am to
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There have been multiple reports that Roberts is attempting to change votes
That's how their behind-the-scenes always works. Roberts tries to convince everyone to observe precedent and/or limit their holdings to the specific facts of the case. The winds of the court should move as slowly as possible (except regarding voting rights). It's his thing.
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I don't see how Kav especially is considered a pro life hardliners.
Read his only opinion on the topic--his dissent in Garza v. Hargan.
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 10:54 am
Posted by BoudinJoe
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:44 am to
jceppos@lsu.edu
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30428 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:52 am to
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Not the people I talk to


Lets be generous and say you talked to 1,000 people. You talked to .003% of the adult population. And I'm sure your sample was extremely representative.

Not that your idiotic anecdote has anything to do with your original arguement anyways, which was also stupid.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11548 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:54 am to
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Not that your idiotic anecdote has anything to do with your original arguement anyways, which was also stupid.
My original argument was that your original argument was wrong...which you ultimately agreed with.
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 10:55 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30428 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:59 am to
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My original argument was that your original argument was wrong...which you ultimately agreed with.



Your original arguement was individuals derive no benefit from political leaks which is stupid.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11548 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:07 am to
No, it wasn't. It was that not all leaks are to/for the benefit of the individuals who leak them.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30428 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:10 am to
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No, it wasn't. It was that not all leaks are to/for the benefit of the individuals who leak them.



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How did this leak serve whatever law clerk or security officer leaked it?



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by Gravitiger


You wanting to get in the weeds about the definition of benefit, or whatever you are trying to do, is really quite bizarre
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 11:11 am
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